Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Aug 2014 13:18 UTC
Apple

Apple is developing a larger iPad with a 12.9-inch display that it plans to begin manufacturing early next year, according to Bloomberg. It's not stated when the larger iPad will actually be released, but reports have swirled around the development of an iPad at this size for about a year now, so it's quite possible that it's finally headed toward a launch. Apple's existing iPads, the Air and the mini, have 9.7- and 7.9-inch displays. At 12.9 inches, this purported iPad would be closer in size to a laptop, like the MacBook Air.

A little birdie has provided us with an exclusive photo of the device.

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New name..
by bert64 on Wed 27th Aug 2014 13:25 UTC
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2007-04-23

The MaxiPad?

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RE: New name..
by Fergy on Wed 27th Aug 2014 13:55 UTC in reply to "New name.."
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

The MaxiPad?

Well that was bloody obvious ;)

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RE[2]: New name..
by drstorm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 17:08 UTC in reply to "RE: New name.."
drstorm Member since:
2009-04-24

The iPad Max

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exclusive photo
by codewrangler on Wed 27th Aug 2014 14:12 UTC
codewrangler
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2010-01-28

LOL...love the 'exclusive photo'....:-)

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Catchup?
by tomz on Wed 27th Aug 2014 14:19 UTC
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2010-05-06

Toshiba had a 13" and Samsung has a 12" tablet.

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AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 14:24 UTC
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2012-12-22

A barely casual look at that picture makes it clear it is a Surface Pro. Or did you mean the picture where we only see the back of what could easily be a render? Or was that sarcasm that missed its mark?

I am not saying it is impossible, but this is a story by the Verge, reporting a story by Bloomberg, which is based on rumors. We have heard this stuff over and over, the suppliers supposedly are doing X for Apple, therefor there will be Y product.

I mean they were completely right about the iPhone 5's 5.5" screen... oh wait.

I am more ready to suspect at 12.5" ARM based laptop from Apple than a 12.5" iPad. Perhaps even with a touchscreen. Maybe I am wrong and it is an iPad,but it also just as likely nothing will be released based on these specs.

I do wish that Bloomberg and every other site that re-reports this stuff would stop reporting rumor and speculation as fact though...

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RE: AND it runs Windows 8!
by Nelson on Wed 27th Aug 2014 14:26 UTC in reply to "AND it runs Windows 8!"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

It was a joke, the photo is of a Surface Pro 3. Which happens to be around the same screen size.

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RE[2]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 14:44 UTC in reply to "RE: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

I will accept that it was an attempt at a joke, which I did mention in my list at the top of the comment BTW

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RE[3]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by Nelson on Wed 27th Aug 2014 15:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I saw that, didn't know if you honestly weren't sure what it was or not, or for the curious readers ;)

Edited 2014-08-27 15:46 UTC

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RE[4]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 16:16 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

I saw that, didn't know if you honestly weren't sure what it was or not, or for the curious readers ;)


See and I thought I set up that joke rather well, but apparently not. Which is why I personally (since humor is subjective) think Thom's attempt fell flat.

I don't fault him for trying, but between the literal wording combined picture it would take someone familiar with the surface to recognize makes it miss the mark (IMHO).

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RE[5]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by torp on Wed 27th Aug 2014 20:06 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
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2010-08-10

"I saw that, didn't know if you honestly weren't sure what it was or not, or for the curious readers ;)


See and I thought I set up that joke rather well, but apparently not. Which is why I personally (since humor is subjective) think Thom's attempt fell flat.

I don't fault him for trying, but between the literal wording combined picture it would take someone familiar with the surface to recognize makes it miss the mark (IMHO).
"

I've never been near a Surface, but the quantity of USB ports made it clear it's neither an iOS or Android device...
And for the record, I thought it was funny.

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RE[6]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by RobG on Thu 28th Aug 2014 10:31 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
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2012-10-17

The windows logo was a clue as well.

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RE[2]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by mikeanderson on Thu 28th Aug 2014 06:59 UTC in reply to "RE: AND it runs Windows 8!"
mikeanderson Member since:
2014-08-22

It was a joke, the photo is of a Surface Pro 3. Which happens to be around the same screen size.


Jokes tend to be fun and have a point.

Could someone explain?

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RE: AND it runs Windows 8!
by Drumhellar on Wed 27th Aug 2014 16:09 UTC in reply to "AND it runs Windows 8!"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

*WOOSH!*

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RE[2]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 16:18 UTC in reply to "RE: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

Wrong

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RE[3]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by leos on Wed 27th Aug 2014 17:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

Not wrong. The joke was blindingly obvious. The fact that you felt the need to write a long post about it shows you weren't sure it was a joke

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RE[4]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 17:20 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

Not wrong. The joke was blindingly obvious. The fact that you felt the need to write a long post about it shows you weren't sure it was a joke


I wrote three sentences, about the "joke" (I disagree that is was funny). Two that were a setup, and one that was my own bit of humor. Perhaps I didn't set it up correctly, but it was that.

So yes, wrong.

The bulk of my post (which you appear not to have read) was a critique of the reporting vague rumor as fact. Which is a shame that no one has appeared to read.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

The bulk of my post (which you appear not to have read) was a critique of the reporting vague rumor as fact.


First time on the internet?

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RE[6]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Thu 28th Aug 2014 04:33 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

First time on the internet?


Nope, been on it in one form or another since the late 80s, However just because the status quo is lazy, reactionary, or favor sarcasm over content; it doesn't mean we should blindly accept it, or not be disappointed in it.

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RE[5]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Aug 2014 19:08 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The bulk of my post (which you appear not to have read) was a critique of the reporting vague rumor as fact.


How is this even remotely presented as a fact?

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RE[6]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 19:15 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

How is this even remotely presented as a fact?


Your headline is "Apple reportedly working on 12.9-inch iPad" not "rumored to be" which is the best you can say when you get to the Bloomberg piece.

Then you have the part you quote none of which indicates or implies that the information is weak in the least.

So yes, it is being presented as fact. Or to invert your question: What indicates this isn't a fact?

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RE[7]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Aug 2014 19:22 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

"Reportedly" means "other people are saying". It indicates that others are reporting - not that it is a fact or an official statement from Apple.

Two, there's "according to Bloomberg", clearly indicating that this is not an official statement from Apple.

Three, "this purported iPad", which is self-explanatory.

Why on god's green earth do I have to explain elementary stuff like this to people who are, apparently, capable of operating a computer. I'm sorry for the harshness, but if you're in a hole, the advice is to STOP DIGGING.

Edited 2014-08-27 19:23 UTC

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RE[6]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jared_wilkes on Wed 27th Aug 2014 21:12 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Bloomberg is not a very good source of Apple rumors, have been wrong numerous times before, and I've never seen you present a Bloomberg rumor (as best I can recall), and it seems to me you've had a general policy of not posting potentially spurious rumors... or even reasonably authoritative or corroborated rumors. So it seems, to me, natural to conclude that you think there is merit to this rumor, merely by posting it (even if you hedged your bets).

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RE[7]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jared_wilkes on Thu 28th Aug 2014 00:20 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Particularly on a day when everyone else is running with what is considered a well-regarded, rarely-unreliable source of a more significant rumor.

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RE[3]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by Drumhellar on Wed 27th Aug 2014 17:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Wrong


Well, then, that means you're the type of person that feels the need to point out that something doesn't make you laugh, and point it out to other people that did laugh over it.

I'll bet you're a blast at parties.

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RE[4]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by tylerdurden on Wed 27th Aug 2014 18:12 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: AND it runs Windows 8!"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17


I'll bet you're a blast at parties.


Wrong

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RE: AND it runs Windows 8!
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 27th Aug 2014 18:26 UTC in reply to "AND it runs Windows 8!"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

The sarcasm did not miss its mark. It seems to have embedded itself quite easily in your rather thin skin.

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RE[2]: AND it runs Windows 8!
by jockm on Wed 27th Aug 2014 18:42 UTC in reply to "RE: AND it runs Windows 8!"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

Touche

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What display resolution will it have?
by przemo_li on Wed 27th Aug 2014 16:23 UTC
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2010-06-01

And why it will be same as normal retina iPad?

(Beside ofcource this 'leak' being plot by competitors to artificially inflate expectations so real thing compare poorly, and every body think that its let down)

Edited 2014-08-27 16:26 UTC

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Awesome
by MarkTime11 on Thu 28th Aug 2014 07:28 UTC
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2010-07-16

haha, that's good, the Surface 3....

yeah, well, so be it. I can't wait until Apple invents the Surface 3.

I just bought a full blown i3 based, windows tablet (Dell Venue Pro 11) with 128GB SSD drive and Windows 8.1, for my wife.

She doesn't really care for it that much. But this is partially my fault for getting an 11" screen. 13" would've been better, and 15" would have been great - since it really is a laptop, and she has almost never used it as a tablet, the keyboard is permanently in use, is what I'm saying.

The tablet part is just confusing for her, she doesn't know why things sometimes work with touch and sometimes do not - like the 'two faces' of internet explorer, and what she's ended up doing is carefully avoiding the whole tablet environment.

When I bought her this thing, I was supposed to get her years old MacBook Pro 3,1 and add that to my collection,which I would have done gladly - but she decided to keep that as well, saying she needs its better keyboard when she has long things to type'.

Edited 2014-08-28 07:30 UTC

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RE: Awesome
by BlueofRainbow on Thu 28th Aug 2014 12:13 UTC in reply to "Awesome"
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2009-01-06

Your description of your wife`s reaction about using a tablet is pretty much descriptive of that I have observed with most people around me who have spent most of their life with the desktop metaphor and the keyboard/mouse combination for user input.

Also, inconsistencies in the user interface for touch driven devices is quite distracting when re-mapping how to do the things one likes/needs to do.

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Convertibles are awkward at best
by ezraz on Thu 28th Aug 2014 13:11 UTC
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2012-06-20

A "convertible" is a car with a soft, removable roof. This roof is not better than a hard roof in any function other than the ability to be removed. You are giving up all the good qualities of a hard roof in order to have something removable.

Being without a roof is nice on a warm, dry, summer day (if you have hair that likes to be messed). Yet convertible car sales have continued to drop. According to google less than 1% of cars sold these days are convertible.

Because the compromise is too high for a machine you rely on daily.

Before having any fun in your car it must be dependable, secure, weather-proof, and trouble free. It should have storage space and be able to sit wherever you park it without worry. The convertible car fails at being as secure, weatherproof, or trouble-free as a hard top car.


Engineers aren't magicians. They can't make something disappear and reappear. It's either important enough to be included at all times or it's in the way.

--If you dangle a keyboard off of a tablet that's a compromise. Now you have to deal with this extra hanging thing.

--If you put a fan and lots of ports in a tablet that's a compromise. Now you have to deal with weight, thickness, sound, and frame flex issues.

--If you build a stylus-pen with the tablet that's a compromise. Now you need to store, protect and possibly replace this critical piece of input.

--If you build a leg into the tablet case that's a compromise. A good case will have it's own stand and more than likely cover up the built in leg. Cases come in all varieties of materials and stand styles based on your preference.

--If you sell a tablet for $800 you better let them put it in a good protective case.


Is it still usable as a tablet? Yes, much like a convertible car is still a car. In certain instances if you are willing to put up with the compromises it appears to be doing 2 things at once and it looks like fun.

But the owner has to make obvious compromises to use the item every single time. Much like convertible cars, around 1% of computer operators will actually prefer to own the convertible, and even then many will have a "hard top" to handle practical duties.

Even people who love convertible cars keep them in the garage half the time.


Microsoft is (as usual) going down the wrong design path with the convertible Surface. It's flawed from the start and no amount of Apple-like engineering can solve the problems of the convertible.

If so, my modern car would know it's sunny and just remove it's hardtop to an invisible boot somewhere and we'd all be driving convertibles. Or Transformers for that matter.

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phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

A "convertible" is a car with a soft, removable roof.


Except for all those hard-top convertibles out there, of course.

Before having any fun in your car it must be dependable, secure, weather-proof, and trouble free. It should have storage space and be able to sit wherever you park it without worry. The convertible car fails at being as secure, weatherproof, or trouble-free as a hard top car.


Except for hard top convertibles, of course.

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a bit too large IMHO
by gehersh on Sat 30th Aug 2014 18:37 UTC
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2006-01-03

I agree 9 inch iPad is a bit too small for some tasks, like in my case I'd like to read the textbooks with a larger device. Yet I think 12.9" is in overkill. To contrast the laptop, iPad should be sufficiently small and light to hold in one hand, I think 11" is just about right. Even if Apple manages to keep the weight of 12.9" iPad to some acceptable value, its very size is no longer what we expected from a Pad. (Unless you are a Bigfoot). If it's too large, you may as well get MacAir 13" which is of course more versatile device.

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