Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 6th Sep 2003 15:41 UTC
Morphos The Pegasos II will go on sale soon. The first limited production of the Pegasos II will be for 600 units. More information can be found at Amiga.org.
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cool
by zekerssss niet on Sat 6th Sep 2003 16:31 UTC

good news, i will have to keep an eye on this pegasos, maybe buy one

16 OS?!
by NYman on Sat 6th Sep 2003 16:37 UTC


OS count on the Pegasos is 16?!

http://www.pegasosppc.com/operating_systems.php

Interesting.

16 OS?!
by hgm on Sat 6th Sep 2003 16:43 UTC

15 .. still great

???hgm???
by NYman on Sat 6th Sep 2003 16:49 UTC


Looks like 20 if you count everything and MorphOS.

Bring back the Toaster!

Re: ??hym??
by Nate Downes on Sat 6th Sep 2003 18:17 UTC

Already saved up my pennies for the Peg II to go right next to my Peg I.

Toaster
by Kevin on Sat 6th Sep 2003 19:08 UTC

"Bring back the Toaster!"

It would be cool to see the toaster on pegasos or macos x, but it works great on Windows so I doubt Newtek would have much incintive to port it to another platform.

RE: Toaster
by Targhan on Sat 6th Sep 2003 19:24 UTC


Well, there is the VideoMicrowave, http://www.morphzone.org/albums/album05/2003_0628Image0002.sized.jp... , which (while it does look like an exercise in silly cases, is actually a visual representation of the next generation of VideoToaster functionality. The idea is to simply have the best possible interface to the best set of tools to work on video presentations quickly and easily.

The set-top box seen in the picture linked to above is rumored to be an "Atari." Unfortunately, the details now are sketchy at best, but keep your eyes on http://www.morphzone.org and http://www.morphos-news.de where more information is likely to pop up.

Phoenix Developers with Genesi
by greenboy on Sat 6th Sep 2003 21:31 UTC

I am happy to provide serious developers (expanded definition in the Phoenix Developer Consortium includes any who can contribute in other important areas as well as coding) with Pegasos One boards, which are EMINENTLY suited for development - and, as Pegasos users and developers already know, these boards have already supplied the centerpiece for machines and an OS experience that is already a hell of a lot of fun TOO! They are pre-owned bargains! :  } 

This one is bount to come up: opinions on the cost/performance of PPC on the desktop are changing as examples of light-footrpint OS use on them come to light, and the recent "G5" developments are very much on the roadmap at Genesi too. Realize also that we want to use MorpHOS and many other ported OSes elsewhere besides the desktop too, and that MorphOS has its spiritual and historical roots on PPC.

Each step of the way we are trying to provide good value for the money for early adopter alternative computing enthusiasts who want something a little bit different, or developers and entrepeneurs who are looking for new avenues and opportunities. Quite simply, we are doing our best to give these enthusiasts and developers what many have asked for, and to improve products and the experience so that we can play in larger more competitive markets successfully. This is no easy task.

This is why the subject of Atari comes up too. Considering the financial and extended partnership benefits and the IP resources the name Atari would provide is just as important as the name itself. I am interested in seeing the products progress and spin off, and having a future that a powerful alliance and brand could bring -

But I also realize that with such reactions as I have seen with past Amiga owners it might make sense (and it might not) to badge systems intended for THEM differently. I must admit, I LIKE the Pegasos and MorphOS names, partly based on the favorable associations they have already built within the Phoenix Developer Consortium and elsewhere  :  }

Regardless of branding decisions, I invite interested graphics artists, musicians and audio specialists, web and print publishers/designers, coders, people with entrepreneuristic tendencies and business plans, coders, etc to contact me and Bill Buck and Raquel Velasco if you have interest in becoming part of this :  }

Phoenix Developers with Genesi
by greenboy on Sat 6th Sep 2003 21:33 UTC

Oops, no sig above. and so...

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coordinator & facilitator-at-large
Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
 
 
 

is all amiga world infested with hucksters and vaporware?
by Business 101 on Sat 6th Sep 2003 21:58 UTC

Maybe the culties at Genesi/Pegasos/Phoenix/whatever would get a clue and realize the real world is tired of vaporware.

Of course, if you are cultie, it is very hard to see the real world anymore.

Posting sales messages on an online forum to hype an upcoming press release (with no specific release date) has got to be a low point.

Most culties live a life that is dominated by a lack of self-love. This is why they go to all ends to get external validation. In the case of Genesi, they are saying "wow, everyone, we are going to have a press release sometime in the future with IBM!, please give us pats on the head!".

If Genesi couldn't wait for the press release to come out, something is clearly wrong with company management. Put in some simple rules so that the brand value is not distored and diminished. Having your brand name associated with endless vaporware and hype and huckster selling methods is certainly not very smart.

The worse tech specs I ever seen !
by Anonymous on Sun 7th Sep 2003 06:54 UTC

Come on do they seriously expect people to settle for 800 mhz slow and old G4's ?

Hucksters and vaporware?
by gary_c on Sun 7th Sep 2003 11:04 UTC

The misnomered Business 101 wrote:

> Maybe the culties at Genesi/Pegasos/Phoenix/whatever would get a clue and realize the real world is tired of vaporware.

If you think Genesi only produces vaporware, I'm wondering what you'd make of the fully functional Pegasos I sitting on my desk.... Are you really so misinformed that you actually believe what you wrote, or are intentionally ignoring the 600 Pegasos boards already shipped to developers, just to try and whip up some FUD? In any case, this kind of reaction is sad. Genesi is a company trying to develop and market a product; you can criticize the specs if you like, as some have done here; fair enough. But one thing that has *characterized* Genesi, in the eyes of the Phoenix "culties" is its ability to deliver product, in resonating contrast to many companies in the sad history of this corner of the computer market. I'm afraid your criticism comes across pretty empty.

-- gary_c

.:.
by HAL on Sun 7th Sep 2003 13:27 UTC

Why buy new hardware to run an OS just to try it? Unless it runs on x86 I won't touch it.

Re: HAL
by tesmako on Sun 7th Sep 2003 14:02 UTC

Why buy new hardware to run an OS just to try it? Unless it runs on x86 I won't touch it.
Welcome to OSNews. I doubt you will enjoy your stay.

Re: HAL
by Don Cox on Sun 7th Sep 2003 15:25 UTC

"Why buy new hardware to run an OS just to try it? Unless it runs on x86 I won't touch it."

If you buy a Pegasos, you can try lots of OSes.

16 at the last count, I hear.

re: The worse tech specs I ever seen !
by Nate Downes on Sun 7th Sep 2003 17:40 UTC

Um, I don't see an 800Mhz G4 mentioned anywhere. I did see the 1Ghz Motorola 7447 in action, however, which runs very well. The 7447 is a new processor, only a few months old.

Has anyone found any pricing yet?
by Jace on Sun 7th Sep 2003 18:02 UTC

I'm not a developer, just a fan of "new" or "curious" non-Intel hardware and I am wondering what this new run will cost regular people like myself. The site listed as a retailer in the USA (in NYC) is devoid of pricing and sales info (sure I could call them, but it's long distance ;-)

re: pricing info
by Nate Downes on Sun 7th Sep 2003 18:31 UTC

There was pricing info in the release. It is supposed to be 299 euro for a G3 model and 499 for the G4 IIRC. Check the exchange rates and tax rates.

Re: 16 OS?!?
by anarchic_teapot on Mon 8th Sep 2003 08:17 UTC

> OS count on the Pegasos is 16?!

No. For example, AmigaOS isn't being ported to the Pegasos, at least not legally: in this case "early stages" means at best "we've said we don't mind if someone else does the work"! Also the link points to a fansite, not the official Amiga site.

Dust in the eyes.

Re: 16 OS?!?
by gary_c on Mon 8th Sep 2003 16:01 UTC

>> OS count on the Pegasos is 16?!

> No.

Actually: yes. But to be fair, this tally counts individual Linux distros as distinct OSs, so if you count them all as one, the total is probably closer to 8 or 9.

> For example, AmigaOS isn't being ported to the Pegasos, at least not legally....

With MorphOS already an AmigaOS workalike, more or less, porting AmigaOS itself is hardly a high priority, and this would be especially problematic since it AOS4 (AmigaOS for PowerPC) isn't even finished yet. Once it is, and if there is a point to such a port, and if the powers that be want to do it, it might happen. In the meantime, there are more interesting things under way.

> in this case "early stages" means at best "we've said we don't mind if someone else does the work"!

Actually, Genesi has gone a bit farther than that. People working on the ports have been given Pegasos boards or systems to work on the port with. The Phoenix consortium is also providing web infrastructure and other assistance. Running an alt OS on cool, offbeat hardware seems to have an appeal felt on all sides, sorta geek squared.

> Also the link points to a fansite, not the official Amiga site.

Yeah, that's funny. It pointed to Amiga Inc.'s AmigaDE site originally. Maybe the lawyers told them to cool it until the case is finally settled.

> Dust in the eyes.

Really? Maybe you should try rinsing them with something refreshing.

-- gary_c