Linked by Adam S on Fri 26th Aug 2005 21:04 UTC, submitted by Valour
Gentoo "Version 1.2 is the third official release of the Gentoo-based VidaLinux OS (VLOS). The changes and enhancements to this edition are significant, but not good enough to save this conceptually astute operating system from failure. VidaLinux 1.2 is nice to play with, but don't expect a comfortable, complete desktop experience a la SUSE or Mandriva." Linux.com has the details. My Take: Tested VLOS the other day, and while it may be not be perfect yet, it's definitely on the way to being an attractive and usable system.
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by bryanv on Fri 26th Aug 2005 21:18 UTC
VLOS 1.2 Disappointment
by Andrew Youll on Fri 26th Aug 2005 21:18 UTC
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I was an Avid user of VLOS 1.1 on my Athlon64, but when 1.2 came out, I saw that there was both free and a commercial version... I thought fine, only to see that they had moddified Porthole so that if you hadn't paid you didn't have access to the entire Portage Tree. To me that was disgusting, considering the portage tree is free to use to anybody.

And IIRC its $50 for the Commercial release, which works out at approximately 30, for that I can almost buy a proper Commercial Distro with proper dedicated support.

After the 1.2 release and a few days with it I quickly moved to Stock Gentoo.

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RE: VLOS 1.2 Disappointment
by miscz on Fri 26th Aug 2005 21:26 UTC in reply to "VLOS 1.2 Disappointment"
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Does VLOS acutally include any propertiary software? I can't understand what are they charging for if they just modified GPLd stuff. Isn't it time someone created free clone (like White Box for RHEL)?

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RE[2]: VLOS 1.2 Disappointment
by Andrew Youll on Fri 26th Aug 2005 21:47 UTC in reply to "RE: VLOS 1.2 Disappointment"
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There is absolutely no propriatory software in VLOS 1.2, and there isn't even a dedicated support team, to justify a commercial release.

They haven't even moddified any GPL app's other than Porthole, so that it limits the Portage Tree you have access to if you haven't paid.

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RE: VLOS 1.2 Disappointment
by Anonymous Penguin on Fri 26th Aug 2005 21:39 UTC in reply to "VLOS 1.2 Disappointment"
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2005-07-06

Very similar feelings here, Andrew.
For $65 (as an existing user) I could buy Libranet 3.0, a supreme OS when compared to VidaLinux.

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RE: VLOS 1.2 Disappointment
by jaypee on Sat 27th Aug 2005 01:04 UTC in reply to "VLOS 1.2 Disappointment"
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2005-07-28

I have what used to be VLOS 1.1 on my desktop. After an "emerge system --update", an "emerge -uD world" and replacing the VLOS kernel with a stock Gentoo kernel, I am now a Gentoo user.

So, did they disable access to portage via the Porthole tool, only? If so, I would think that you could just do your updates from the command line.

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RE: VLOS 1.2 Disappointment
by binarycrusader on Sat 27th Aug 2005 04:38 UTC in reply to "VLOS 1.2 Disappointment"
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2005-07-06

To me that was disgusting, considering the portage tree is free to use to anybody.

I completely have to agree with you. I feel the same way to a certain extent (though I somewhat understand a bit more) about Linspire's Click-and-Run...

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That sucks VLOS would be nice
by Anonymous on Fri 26th Aug 2005 22:07 UTC
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If they did not try to cripple porthole.

I mean a polished Gentoo without all that hella effort?

That would be nice.

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RE: That sucks VLOS would be nice
by Anonymo on Fri 26th Aug 2005 23:56 UTC in reply to "That sucks VLOS would be nice"
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You should make one.

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Just use Gentoo
by Anonymous on Sat 27th Aug 2005 02:14 UTC
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The stage 3 package from Gentoo 2005.1 installs in no time flat. It makes a great server (secure, stable, fast).

Gentoo was not designed to be a quick and dirty install. It was designed to be highly customizable. If you want a quick and easy desktop, use Fedora or Mandrake.

Gentoo is even working on a Graphical installer. After that, tehre will be no market from VLOS.

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objectiv
by Anonymous on Sat 27th Aug 2005 05:32 UTC
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Good objectiv article.

Although i personally prefer plain gentoo i see VLOS as an interesting option for some people who want the abundance of gentoo-options later on but haven't the time to put that much time in it at this stage.They can postpone the learning curve a little.

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the problem
by Anonymous on Sun 28th Aug 2005 03:10 UTC
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Gentoo is by design really a power users distro and Vlos is marketed more towards the newb. As a newb if you don't go through the complex install you really don't learn how to properly administer your system.

I recommend one of the various Debian distros towards the newb, perhaps SimplyMepis.

Gentoo is just not designed to be used by people who can't get through the install.


my $1.45

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