Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 27th Jun 2006 21:27 UTC
Mac OS X Apple Computer on Tuesday released Mac OS X 10.4.7, a maintenance and security update to its Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger operating system. The update is recommended for all users and includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes for [some] applications and technologies.
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by Tom K on Tue 27th Jun 2006 22:45 UTC
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2005-07-06

I'm not sure if it's just a placebo effect or what, but I think Rosetta performance has been improved slightly with this release.

Rosetta-emulated apps seem to start somewhat faster than they did, and translated is using less memory after I quit my common Rosetta apps.

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v rox0rs
by marcushe on Tue 27th Jun 2006 23:40 UTC
Not Installed
by atomicplayboy on Tue 27th Jun 2006 23:48 UTC
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2006-04-28

Has anyone installed the update on a powerpc machine? If so, does there seem to be any noticable improvments aside from the fixes listed in the update details? I really can't see anything in there worth updating for. My powerbook is running great on 10.4.6 and I'm weary to change anything non-security related.

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RE: Not Installed
by Gryzor on Wed 28th Jun 2006 00:14 UTC in reply to "Not Installed"
Gryzor Member since:
2005-07-03

I did, I can't see any difference. Mail has been updated (as the Keychain reported). I've lost the icons of two external drives but apart from that, I don't feel anything different.

A nice fix (if it has been indeed fixed) is that the icons on the desktop should (finally) be placed correctly… one can only hope ;)

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RE: Not Installed
by BigZaphod on Wed 28th Jun 2006 00:54 UTC in reply to "Not Installed"
BigZaphod Member since:
2005-07-06

I updated my PB. Haven't noticed anything different, really. My wife updated her Intel iMac. Also no real visible changes at this point. At least it worked. :-)

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RE: Not Installed
by nighty5 on Wed 28th Jun 2006 03:58 UTC in reply to "Not Installed"
nighty5 Member since:
2005-12-18

Checkout the security changes for 10.4.7.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61798

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RE[2]: Not Installed
by Governa on Wed 28th Jun 2006 04:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Not Installed"
Governa Member since:
2006-04-09

Yes but note that those are not new. 10.4.7 does not include any new security updates, it just includes all previous standalone security updates in case you missed any.

Edited 2006-06-28 04:41

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RE: Not Installed
by parrotjoe on Wed 28th Jun 2006 05:09 UTC in reply to "Not Installed"
parrotjoe Member since:
2005-07-06

If you have .Mac, there are a lot fixes they made for it.

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RE: Not Installed
by protagonist on Wed 28th Jun 2006 06:49 UTC in reply to "Not Installed"
protagonist Member since:
2005-07-06

I installed it and for the first time had real problems. When rebooting it got to the loading OS X screen and the progress went very slowly all the way across and then it stuck at that point and wouldn't boot any further.

Fortunately I had a backup, not as recent as I should have had, so I booted off the external firewire drive and copied the really recent stuff to another external drive and then cloned the firewire drive to the main internal drive. Lost a few items but nothing important. Make sure you have a fresh backup folks. I know this but had been getting a bit complacent of late.

To be honest, I can't say for 100% sure that it was the fault of the update. I had been having some problems removing an application the last couple of days and may have contributed to the problem.

I got back up and running tonight and did a fresh clone so will try the update again tomorrow or the next day. I repeat, make a backup of any important stuff before installing any OS upgrade. Even though my clone was 6 weeks old I had copies of almost everything. A fresh clone would have saved me about three hours of work. :-)

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Installed on a PowerPC machine
by Governa on Wed 28th Jun 2006 01:05 UTC
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2006-04-09

I have just updated my iBook. Everything went smoothly. After rebooting, no problems to report. :-)

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This thread title is incorrect...
by jtfolden on Wed 28th Jun 2006 02:38 UTC
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2005-08-12

It should be : " Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.4.7

There needs to be a space between Mac and OS and the name of the operating system in question is Mac OS X.

Note how it is referred to on the very site you have linked to in the article, and how it is announced by Apple:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303771

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Pliep Member since:
2006-02-05

Indeed. OSNews tends to write "MacOS" which is not the correct name. It's like writing "Tom" instead of "Thom" all the time ;)

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sc3252 Member since:
2005-09-06

I think he is doing it more as a politicle statment. Lucky for me, I agree with him, I am sick of apple calling it Mac os X 10.4.?. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X

http://www.amazon.com/gp/sitbv3/reader/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-4548927-12...
(goto start of chapter 1)

Every thing I read points out that the X stands for ten, not that it means mac os X, as in the letter x, but for the number 10.

Also who cares if he puts Mac and Os together. Its not a big deal, but I do recognise that it isnt correct.

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protagonist Member since:
2005-07-06

"Also who cares if he puts Mac and Os together. Its not a big deal, but I do recognise that it isnt correct."

Too many people have nothing better to do that to correct peoples spelling, grammar and punctuation. But I guess that is much easier than constructive criticism.

I will probably try to install the upgrade again today. A bit of a disaster yesterday, but only from a time aspect.

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jtfolden Member since:
2005-08-12

Yes, of course X is pronounced TEN, but that is ultimately irrelevant to the point and allowing personal, misguided agenda to affect the professionalism and accuracy of an article is downright silly. People may think it's nitpicking but it's more than that. Misspelling the name or leaving out the X altogether affects the accuracy of the search feature provided on the site, among other things. If I type in "OS X" to get the latest news on that OS, then the article posted just a few days ago titled "Apple To Unveil MacOS 10.5 at WWDC" doesn't even show up among the search results. So is being inconsistent on naming conventions helping the function or professionalism of this site? Apparently not.

Furthermore, it's a bit late to be making political statements on Apple's naming conventions... or was everyone looking the other way over the last decade as Apple printed up discs saying Mac OS 8 version 8.5", "Mac OS 9 v9.1", etc.

..and when the day comes and we move on to OS XI/OS 11, Im betting we'll still see things like "version 11.0.4" following it up.

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collywolly Member since:
2006-06-19

pedantic mac fans......

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chlordane Member since:
2006-05-11

its always the little things huh..?
good attention to detail...

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They didn't update CUPS
by tyrione on Wed 28th Jun 2006 03:01 UTC
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2005-11-21

Cups1.2.1 dmg is available from cups.org. Everything went smooth.

iSync 2.3 is out but if you really want to know what has been update then launch System Profiler.app and view the long list of Frameworks updated.

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RE: They didn't update CUPS
by kaiwai on Wed 28th Jun 2006 06:11 UTC in reply to "They didn't update CUPS"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Gimpprint 5.0rc3 is also out as well, as a download, it does require a little investigation work to find the link.

Regarding the cups upgrade, whats improvements over 1.1 that you have noticed?

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iBook PPC scrolling
by caulktel on Wed 28th Jun 2006 03:17 UTC
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2005-09-21

The only thing I can see that the update changed for the worse is, two fingered scrolling in safari is real jittery. It used to be very smooth, now it jerks so bad that you can't read the page till you stop scrolling. USB mouse seems to work fine though.

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RE: iBook PPC scrolling
by Governa on Wed 28th Jun 2006 03:24 UTC in reply to "iBook PPC scrolling"
Governa Member since:
2006-04-09

Sorry to hear that caulktel, I'm using Safari right now (I'm actually a Firefox user) and the two fingered scrolling is working fine. :-)

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Combo
by kokara4a on Wed 28th Jun 2006 08:17 UTC
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2005-09-16

So what's the difference between the "Combo" and the regular version of the download (apart from the former being quite a bit larger)?

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RE: Combo
by godawful on Wed 28th Jun 2006 18:40 UTC in reply to "Combo"
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2005-06-29

combo includes every update from 10.4.0 on, where as the delta requires a user to update from 10.4.6

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Combo Bocks
by gypsumfantastic on Wed 28th Jun 2006 08:38 UTC
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2005-07-06

The "Combo" is a roll-up of all Mac OS X updates since 10.4.0; You need this one if you're not on 10.4.6. That's why it's much bigger.

I installed it this morning. Oddly, it turned off two-finger effects on my BlackBook trackpad, but they were easily re-enabled through System Preferences.

I have no idea why it did this.

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10.4.7
by salmacis on Wed 28th Jun 2006 09:29 UTC
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2005-07-06

I installed it this morning. Oddly, it turned off two-finger effects on my BlackBook trackpad, but they were easily re-enabled through System Preferences.

I had almost the same problem with my MacBook. Two finger scrolling worked, but not two finger tapping (to simulate a rightclick). I switched two finger tapping off and on again in the System Preferences and all was fine again. Weird.

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Much better for NIS/NFS
by benmhall on Wed 28th Jun 2006 12:47 UTC
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2006-03-08

I have an Intel Mini that I log into over NIS with NFS mounted home directories. This release seems to have fixed the very annoying login problems that I was having.

With 10.4.6 and earlier, I would occasionally have to reboot three or four times and then wait at the login prompt for a minute or two before being able to successfully log in over NIS. While I had thought that it might have been something else, the 10.4.7 update seems to have fixed this problem.

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MacBook heat issue
by tux5 on Wed 28th Jun 2006 14:16 UTC
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2006-06-28

Has anyone noticed if this update fixes the MacBook heat issue like the last update did for the MB Pro?

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One thing I noticed...
by Tuishimi on Wed 28th Jun 2006 16:26 UTC
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2005-07-06

...is that my Airport connection did not drop overnight. For some reason (and I have sleep mode OFF - only my monitor powers down over time) I had been losing my airport connection every night (intel mac mini) and sometimes even during the day if I leave it for an hour or so. This morning all was up and running fine.

[edit]

Oh, btw, just to bug me, my wife calls Mac OS X Macos (all one word - MAH-coss). She loves saying that because I cringe every time.

Edited 2006-06-28 16:28

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vikramsharma
Member since:
2005-07-06

Since I have updated to 10.4.7 Finder keeping on crashing and relaunching by itself. Does anyone else have the same problem.

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Governa Member since:
2006-04-09

Besides the usual information on the update, there is this little note of caution that many many users tend to forget:

"You may experience unexpected results if you have third-party system software modifications installed, or if you've modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)"

So those of you moving apps out of the standard locations, using programs like Uno and such, be aware or you might end up with a corrupted update.

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vikramsharma Member since:
2005-07-06

So right you are I had enabled Growl to start at login that started causing me problems, since I took out Growl from the "Login Items" in "Accounts" section of "System Preferences". Third party installations like Application Enhancer, Growl, etc, booting into safe mode would probably help analyze what's wrong with the updated software (to boot in to safe mode hold the shift key while booting).

Edited 2006-06-28 18:33

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

So right you are I had enabled Growl to start at login that started causing me problems, since I took out Growl from the "Login Items" in "Accounts" section of "System Preferences". Third party installations like Application Enhancer, Growl, etc, booting into safe mode would probably help analyze what's wrong with the updated software (to boot in to safe mode hold the shift key while booting).

Hence my advice, when updating, remember to disable third party drivers and software; the update *COULD* fix issues with an API, and that API could be one on which the third party software rely on.

If you are experiencing problems, firstly, repair filesystem permissions, secondly, disable third party software and hardware support, install the update, then gradually activate each of the third party software until you reach a problem, take a note, then report the said issue to the respective software vendor(s).

Also, it isn't Apples responsibility to support peoples personal tweaks which they have done via using tools that tweak either undocumented parts or parts which have been documented as not to be modified.

For me, my installation went well, but then again, I have a pretty vanilla installation in respects to the software and hardware I have attached to this system.

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iChat Video won't work anymore
by xserve on Thu 29th Jun 2006 02:47 UTC
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2005-07-06

iChat Video won't work anymore if you are behind a NAT router (most of us do). it will either give you "error -8", "user is busy at another conference" or "no response".

Hope Apple will have a fix for this soon.

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Apple Releases MacOS 10.4.7
by protagonist on Fri 30th Jun 2006 00:36 UTC
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2005-07-06

It is now official. This update breaks my system. After installing it for the second time my system again stopped at the Starting OS X screen with the progress bar clear over to the right. And there it stayed and I left it for almost 20 minutes. Had to boot off the backup HD to recover.

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