Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 21st Dec 2007 21:31 UTC, submitted by GhePeU
Red Hat Matthew Szulik writes: "After almost a decade of leading Red Hat, I have decided to transition my CEO and President role for the personal reasons I have already discussed. It's my privilege to continue serving this great company in the role of Chairman of the Board. Red Hat will be in the capable hands of a world-class executive team under the leadership of Jim Whitehurst as President and CEO."
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Great man
by superman on Fri 21st Dec 2007 22:27 UTC
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2006-08-01

Lot, lot, lot of contributions :
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions

Fedora, OLPC, no compromis (think Novell & MS). Fully commited to free software (Centos).

Red Hat is an amazing story.

http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/12/20/a-message-from-matthew/
Red Hat associates past and present, along with members of the open source community and our customers and partners picked up their brushes, dipped them into a paint palette of color to create this artwork called Red Hat. I take pride when customers and industry types comment to me that the people of Red Hat are “different.”

v RE: Great man
by antik on Fri 21st Dec 2007 22:46 UTC in reply to "Great man"
RE[2]: Great man
by Tom K on Fri 21st Dec 2007 23:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Great man"
Tom K Member since:
2005-07-06

CentOS has nothing in common with RedHat, except for the fact that ... you know ... it *IS* RedHat -- with a different name and logo.

RE[2]: Great man
by ThawkTH on Fri 21st Dec 2007 23:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Great man"
ThawkTH Member since:
2005-07-06

Wow. Just wow.

"409 Scams from Nigerian young criminals" - there goes ALL your credibility.

CentOS being buggy? Wow. Compared to what?

RedHat is a business. Novell is a Business. Businesses cannot, by their nature, care about ANYTHING but profit. Learn this and suddenly they make a LOT more sense.

RE[3]: Great man
by zombie process on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 04:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Great man"
zombie process Member since:
2005-07-08

These two posts make a hell of a lot more sense when you can, you know, ACTUALLY SEE what they're replying to. If there's going to be a less than -5 option to vote posts down to, there needs to be a "this post is too stupid to bother reading" placeholder for the missing post. It's way too damn confusing trying to read these conversations otherwise.

Edited 2007-12-22 04:42

RE[4]: Great man
by broken_symlink on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 12:32 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Great man"
broken_symlink Member since:
2005-07-06

you could just change your score threshold. its in preferences.

RE[5]: Great man
by MamiyaOtaru on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 19:59 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Great man"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

But you can't change it to anything lower than -5, hence the part in the post to which you were replying that read "If there's going to be a less than -5 option to vote posts down to ..." Right now all I can do to read the missing comment is to add &threshold=-10 to the end of the URL.

The comment at -9 really wasn't worth reading though ;) I'd be happy to see it simply disappear but when there are replies to it, it does confuse things.

Edited 2007-12-22 19:59

RE[6]: Great man
by brucecampbellite on Mon 24th Dec 2007 08:00 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Great man"
brucecampbellite Member since:
2006-08-14

Rather than altering the url, you can scroll to the bottom of the page and click the link that says "There are 1 comment(s) below your current score threshold.". This will set your treshold to -500. Unfortunately, as you said, there is no option in the account settings below -5. Always wanted to complain to the admins about that but never bothered.

RE[4]: Great man
by Luminair on Sun 23rd Dec 2007 10:18 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Great man"
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

With the newer site you can click the dropdown icon to expand the collapsed post: http://www4.osnews.com/comments/19077

Red Hat
by RHCE07 on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 00:03 UTC
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2007-12-08

It seems like Red Hat is going the direction it needs to go, they now offer a lot of services and they have beefed up their support.

The Cluster Suite is an impressive package, I have installed it and I have a cluster going now. I am testing it at work, I have to say the configuration tools (GUI) are extremely solid and nice.

I hope the new guy can lead Red Hat as well as Matthew.

Global Warming !
by anyweb on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 00:05 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-06

(you have to read the article to understand), notice the caps.

and...

thanks for Fedora and RHEL, Fedora (and Red Hat) rock in my humble opinion, so cheers, thank you and good bye MJS

anyweb

Fedora ROCKS!!!
by RHCE07 on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 03:50 UTC
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Member since:
2007-12-08

Yes, Red Hat has come a LONG way and Fedora was kind of a shocker at first however now I totally understand the vision and Fedora is my favorite Linux distro. It is the easiest to use (for me) and tons of extras galore available for it.

RHEL5.1 is awesome, the tools (GUI) based for a lot of extra's like the Cluster Suite rock and it makes it easier to administer and configure.

I remember buying my first BOX set of Red Hat 6.0 Professional that had 30 Days of PHONE support! I did not know anything about Linux much less how the file structure worked. In my wildest dreams I would have never have guessed I would be a Linux Admin today!

How strange it is how a hobby from a FREE operating system can earn you a great living!!!

Awwsome
by linuxjobworld.com on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 11:16 UTC
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Member since:
2007-12-22

Redhat had to go through a lot of difficulties but they have proven that open source works !

Kudos and best of luck !

twocents
by twocents on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 18:09 UTC
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Member since:
2006-07-30

Looking at the front page today, I'm curious when this site became an MS advocacy site.

Sure there is a little bit of news regarding alternative OSes but the admin seems to dig up anti-Apple stories (with anti-Apple remarks), boring Linux stories (despite all the activity in this area) and a ton of contrived excitement regarding any move Microsoft makes.

Really, can you get a little more excited about a Service Pack update or a ChangeLog for Vista... and a little less excited about Google Android. Of all the positive articles regarding G.Android, for example, the site admin(s) decides to select the least positive one.

So MS competitors are getting the bum's rush on this site now with a focus on the boring or the controversial?

This must be the reason I removed OS News from my RSS feeds a while back - I just couldn't put my finger on it until today.

Nine years
by Munchkinguy on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 21:09 UTC
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Member since:
2007-12-22

"Nine plus years is a long time. Microsoft anti-trust cases. Harry Potter. Clinton Bush Bush. Columbine. Dot com. Year 2000. September 11, 2001. China / WTO. Iraq. Tsunami. ENRON. Sarbanes Oxley. BRIC ( brazil russia india china ). Darfur. Italy and World Cups. Boston Red Sox. iPods. Spanish Rail bombings. global warming. Obama and Hillary."

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

Edited 2007-12-22 21:09

hun ?
by linuxjobworld.com on Sun 23rd Dec 2007 04:08 UTC
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Member since:
2007-12-22

Jim Whitehurst was a Chief Operating Officer of Delta Air Lines...hun ? what has he to do with open source and linux ? does he even understand or even use linux apart from the basic stuff ?

Does he even share the passion of linux except from the big talks...i mean is someone comes to him and ask cvs or svn or should be use ruby or python...he will just have a blank look and say "do whatever you think is good..."

sucks.

big mistake....

RE: hun ?
by lumbrjackedpcj on Sun 23rd Dec 2007 05:25 UTC in reply to "hun ?"
lumbrjackedpcj Member since:
2006-01-16

Jim Whitehurst was a programmer earlier in his career and runs 4 versions of Linux at home. It was on the Red Hat conference call. Don't knock the guy yet when you obviously don't know too much about him.... ;)

I warned them about using Yum over Apt : )
by BrendaEM on Sun 23rd Dec 2007 04:49 UTC
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Member since:
2005-11-23

Two years ago, was there that much difference between Ubuntu and Redhat? Well, there was Yum, that's a bit$# to configure, and had no Synaptic.... Well, perhaps there was a bit of attitude too.

It's a shame that a company that helped in some part to carry the torch for Linux, would made a few bad decisions, such only updating OpenOffice once per distro release (remember compiling your own), growling at all the people who helped, and yes, by trying to reinvent the wheel by using Yum.

Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

You realize Yum means YellowDog Updater Modified? You'll note YellowDog is an RPM based distro (currently based on Fedora) ...

Red Hat didn't reinvent the wheel at all, APT simply isn't meant to be used with RPM, there is too much feature overlap, and the projects that used to maintain APT for RPM have since ceased work on the project...

If you want a package management system based on nasty hacks, that's fine... I think the fact Fedora adopted YUM was a great move.

siride Member since:
2006-01-02

And then there's the fact that YUM/RPM is far superior to apt in almost every way. After having to do RPM development and server management at work, and then trying Ubuntu, I found myself frustrated by the lack of features to be found with APT/DPKG. Apt is fine for a desktop distro, but it's not the best out there. The people who defend it simply don't know how to use Yum and never tried, or the last time they used RedHat was 2001.

I WILL NOT MISS Matthew Szulik
by judegab on Sun 23rd Dec 2007 20:16 UTC
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Member since:
2007-12-23

This is the guy that discontinued desktop distribution of RedHat. This is they guy that announced to the world that people are better off using Microsoft XP on their desktops. This is the guy that charges $900 for one certification exam. This is the guy that charges $2,600 for a class help you pass this overpriced certification test. I don't know about you guys but I am not shedding a tear.
I will begin to cheer for RedHat again if the new guy breaks up the RHCE test into 4 different tests that cost $120 each (ala MCSE) and offers certifications in programming languages. Mr Szulik was no hero.