Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st Oct 2008 20:29 UTC
Windows And yet some more information about Windows 7 has found its way to users. Ars Technica is present at Microsoft's Professional Developer Conference, and they dove into the new Device Stage feature, as well as the new Libraries feature in the Windows Explorer file manager.
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Libraries a nice suprise
by google_ninja on Fri 31st Oct 2008 21:02 UTC
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Device stage is sort of expected since this is a "polish the UI" release, but I had written off libraries as yet another search folder implementation, which I have found useless on every OS I have used it on. I'll reserve final judgement until I can actually play around with them, but this shows alot of promise

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by unzip on Fri 31st Oct 2008 22:41 UTC
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2008-10-31

Great presentation skills.

Anyway it's been a long time since I've seen something really promising coming from MS. I like the way MS is finally looking back on some things which weren't that great and trying to make things up in the next release of Windows.

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More and more...
by looncraz on Sat 1st Nov 2008 01:41 UTC
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and more and more Windows is trying to be like BeOS with the glitz of MacOS X's UI.

This ain't a bad thing, though.

The better Windows becomes, the better the competition must become, so go Windows 7! ( hehe )

--The loon

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RE: More and more...
by Panajev on Sat 1st Nov 2008 14:03 UTC in reply to "More and more..."
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2008-01-09

and more and more Windows is trying to be like BeOS with the glitz of MacOS X's UI.

This ain't a bad thing, though.

The better Windows becomes, the better the competition must become, so go Windows 7! ( hehe )

--The loon


I agree, MacOS X already showed that the assumption "eye pleasing graphics + ease of use != system security, versatility, and stability" was flawed and you COULD do better.

Windows 7 building on top of the great (IMHO) under-the-hood changes Vista pioneered for the desktop Windows OS system, optimizing performance, focusing on usability and UI consistency, will not only be good news for Windows users, but for Linux users too as IMHO will motivate the OSS to leapfrog their competition (and this will be good news for everyone).

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RE[2]: More and more...
by chris_dk on Sat 1st Nov 2008 17:34 UTC in reply to "RE: More and more..."
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Windows 7 building on top of the great (IMHO) under-the-hood changes Vista pioneered for the desktop Windows OS system, optimizing performance, focusing on usability and UI consistency, will not only be good news for Windows users, but for Linux users too as IMHO will motivate the OSS to leapfrog their competition (and this will be good news for everyone).


In theory, yes. However, to this day, a tagging system like the one that exists in Vista has yet to be integrated in eg. Gnome.

Nautilus also needs some work if Gnome wants to compete with Windows 7 - this library thing looks really nice.

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RE[2]: More and more...
by DrillSgt on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 05:54 UTC in reply to "RE: More and more..."
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"I agree, MacOS X already showed that the assumption "eye pleasing graphics + ease of use != system security, versatility, and stability" was flawed and you COULD do better."

OS X can be eye pleasing, yes. Ease of use? I know I will get slammed for this, but that is a personal opinion and subjective. It is a confusing and frustrating UI, unless you have used nothing but OS X.

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RE[3]: More and more...
by Kroc on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 08:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: More and more..."
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2005-11-10

You mean, it's confusing and frustrating if you've only ever used Windows -- If you've a wider experience than Windows alone, that includes Unix, Linux, Amiga OS, RISC OS, BeOS and so on, then OS X is not out of place.

Windows is like Photoshop. It's bad UI to begin with, but you just slog through it until you know it well, and then you're unable to understand anything alternative.

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by DrillSgt on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 15:29 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: More and more..."
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"You mean, it's confusing and frustrating if you've only ever used Windows -- If you've a wider experience than Windows alone, that includes Unix, Linux, Amiga OS, RISC OS, BeOS and so on, then OS X is not out of place."

Well, again, that is your opinion and I respect that. I use Linux, Unix, Windows, and even OS X, and have used OS 9 prior to. BeOS never booted an any hardware I had so could never try it out. I still think the OS X UI is a usability nightmare, not that Windows and the like are all that much better depending who is using them.

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Re: Tagging System
by 3rdalbum on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 04:52 UTC
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2008-05-26

The Gnome developers are only going to reimplement features that people actually use in Vista and Windows 7. Tags ended off being a bit of a fad, and I don't know anyone who uses them on desktop files. Device Stage could be another one of those features. Multi-touch is likely to be the exception to the rule; I'm sure Gnome will get some multi-touch capabilities before everyone realises that they hate leaving fingerprints on their monitors :-)

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does not look useful
by MysterMask on Mon 3rd Nov 2008 02:22 UTC
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How is that different from smart folders (with the exception that you have to add folders to libraries manually, which sounds cumbersome)? Another badly copied feature?

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