Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Mar 2009 17:07 UTC, submitted by Anil Gulecha
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris ZFS and unbreakable upgrades were introduced in an earlier article. XercesTech has written a detailed article on how apt-get and zfs join forces to provide a worry-free upgrade experience. "While some operating systems provide the ability to roll back changes, they usually require significant time, or an experienced user with some external repair tools. The goal here is to be instant, if something goes wrong with an upgrade, it should be possible to boot into the old system without running any terminal commands, booting any rescue system or installation disc, or otherwise manually rolling things back."
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Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Thu 26th Mar 2009 19:39 UTC
Laurence
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2007-03-26

I've been using Nexenta on my home server for about 6 months now. Initially I only installed it for ZFS, but I've since come to love it. In fact, the more I use it, the more I wonder how I coped before without Solaris Zones, ZFS and the lark.

Edited 2009-03-26 19:43 UTC

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RE: Comment by Laurence
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 26th Mar 2009 20:48 UTC in reply to "Comment by Laurence"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I had it installed for a period of time as well. Its sort of tough to love. Yes the zfs and all the solaris goodies are there, but there aren't many packages available for desktop use.

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RE[2]: Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Fri 27th Mar 2009 00:17 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Laurence"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

I had it installed for a period of time as well. Its sort of tough to love. Yes the zfs and all the solaris goodies are there, but there aren't many packages available for desktop use.

That would be because it's not targetted for desktop use.
If you want desktop Solaris then you'd be better off with OpenSolaris.

Failing that, there's also FreeBSD - which supports ZFS and has 'jails' (FreeBSD's equivelent to Solaris Zones) as well as an already proven track record of success on the desktop.
No apt-get though, but the ports system is as good as it is different from Debian.

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RE[3]: Comment by Laurence
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 27th Mar 2009 02:37 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Laurence"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, but I want Zfs + gnu toolchain + gui.

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RE[4]: Comment by Laurence
by Doc Pain on Fri 27th Mar 2009 04:13 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Laurence"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

Yeah, but I want Zfs + gnu toolchain + gui.


FreeBSD, eventually? :-)

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RE[4]: Comment by Laurence
by Slapo on Fri 27th Mar 2009 06:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Laurence"
Slapo Member since:
2005-07-06

Maybe Debian GNU/kFreeBSD could fit the bill?

I'm itching to try it on a test box, I just need to get my hands on one.
VirtualBox isn't quite it if I want to actually use it.

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RE[5]: Comment by Laurence
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 27th Mar 2009 14:45 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Laurence"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Sweet, that looks promising. Thanks for the info, I'll have to give that a try.

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RE[4]: Comment by Laurence
by anilg on Fri 27th Mar 2009 08:18 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Laurence"
anilg Member since:
2009-03-27

Though NCP is server focussed, we have XFCE4 and gnome-core for NCP2.. so you can install these WMs.

http://www.nexenta.org/os/FAQ#head-dd78578189a3eaf21a70dff59c9a2d1b...

-Anil

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RE[5]: Comment by Laurence
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 27th Mar 2009 20:21 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Laurence"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Gnome core must be new. Is it in the unstable / experimental repository? I thought I looked there, without success last October/November.

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RE[6]: Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Sat 28th Mar 2009 09:24 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Laurence"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Gnome core must be new. Is it in the unstable / experimental repository? I thought I looked there, without success last October/November.


No, it's really old actually. You have to add a now defunct repository IIRC

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RE[4]: Comment by Laurence
by Kebabbert on Fri 27th Mar 2009 14:00 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Laurence"
Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

OpenSolaris is getting more and more GNU toolchain. Soon it will truly be a GNU/Solaris distro.

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RE[5]: Comment by Laurence
by fithisux on Sat 28th Mar 2009 19:19 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Laurence"
fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

I cross my fingers. There are plenty OSS IDEs targeting gcc. However if you happen to use Netbeans CND then SunStudio is nicely supported.

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RE[4]: Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Fri 27th Mar 2009 17:27 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Laurence"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Yeah, but I want Zfs + gnu toolchain + gui.


FreeBSD's toolchain isn't that much different to Linux's.

But if it has to be Linux, then run ZFS via FUSE. Just don't expect the same speeds you'd get with native kernel support.

However, I still think you're selling FreeBSD short. It's a wonderful OS

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