Linked by snydeq on Mon 20th Jul 2009 23:29 UTC
Apple InfoWorld's Peter Wayner provides an inside look at the frustration iPhone developers face from Apple when attempting to distribute their apps through the iPhone App Store. Determined to simply dump an HTML version of his book into UIWebView and offer two versions through the App Store, Wayner endures four months of inexplicable silences, mixed messages, and almost whimsical rejections from Apple -- the kind of frustration and uncertainty Wayner believes is fast transforming Apple's regulated marketplace into a hotbed of bottom-feeding mediocrity. 'Developers are afraid to risk serious development time on the platform as long as anonymous gatekeepers are able to delay projects by weeks and months with some seemingly random flick of a finger,' Wayner writes of his experience. 'It's one thing to delay a homebrew project like mine, but it's another thing to shut down a team of developers burning real cash. Apple should be worried when real programmers shrug off the rejections by saying, "It's just a hobby."'
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Not sure...
by sigzero on Tue 21st Jul 2009 00:12 UTC
sigzero
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2006-01-03

There are roughly 50,000 apps in the store. There are a lot of high quality ones as well. While the process could be tweaked I am sure I think "undermining" is way too strong word.

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RE: Not sure...
by Laurence on Tue 21st Jul 2009 07:37 UTC in reply to "Not sure..."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

There are roughly 50,000 apps in the store. There are a lot of high quality ones as well. While the process could be tweaked I am sure I think "undermining" is way too strong word.


When developers get refused when trying to upload patches to an app already on the store - I'd consider that undermining.

When developers get whole apps refused because the application streams adult songs, despite the same songs being available to buy on Apples music store - then I'd consider that undermining.

When developers get whole apps refused because it's an RSS feed to a site with swear words, despite that website being freely accessible by Apples own apps - then I'd consider that undermining.

I could go on as there's plenty of evidence online of Apples bi-polar approach to censorship and their downright lack of respect towards the people who really made the iPhone great (lets face it, it's one of Apples biggest marketing angles).

Apple are really going to have to pull their head of the sand (and quick) because they no longer have the "isn't it sexy" and "it just works well" markets cornered what with Palm Pre and Android joining the fight and Blackburry, Nokia and Samsung making huge strides to catch up.
Plus you can bank on MS not to hang about too long (and given their massive app cateloge, they already have a head-start in some respects).

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RE[2]: Not sure...
by systyrant on Tue 21st Jul 2009 13:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Not sure..."
systyrant Member since:
2007-01-18

I don't speak for the populous, but in and around my area blackberry's are more popular than iPhones. So much in fact I can think of at least three iPhone users who have dumped the iPhone for blackberry's.

That has nothing to do with the app store. However, one of those guys that dumped the iPhone was working on iPhone development. He gave up when all four of his apps where rejected.

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Here we go again..
by puelocesar on Tue 21st Jul 2009 01:53 UTC
puelocesar
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2008-10-30

Last time this was discussed here people came with the sugestion that iphone developers are just like prostitutes: They are mistreated but (generally) get their money

I myself think that's the best explanation to the situation, and as a developer I still prefer to be well treated AND get my money, so no Apple iPhone for me

Edited 2009-07-21 01:53 UTC

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if they had the power
by alcibiades on Tue 21st Jul 2009 11:17 UTC
alcibiades
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2005-10-12

Just imagine, if they had the power to do this with computers....

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RE: if they had the power
by sicofante on Tue 21st Jul 2009 19:19 UTC in reply to "if they had the power"
sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

Just imagine, if they had the power to do this with computers....

Exactly! It's just chilling.

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RE[2]: if they had the power
by fretinator on Tue 21st Jul 2009 19:27 UTC in reply to "RE: if they had the power"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

That's one of the reason I like Personal Computers, becuase the "powers that be" have no control over my computer and canno

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Slow news eh?
by Eddyspeeder on Tue 21st Jul 2009 12:23 UTC
Eddyspeeder
Member since:
2006-05-10

Ummm, exactly *how* is this news? Just over a month ago, we read exactly the same thing, but then more in-depth: http://osne.ws/gq6

The same author who was quoted there, also wrote:
- a follow-up post on why he sticks to the iPhone: http://www.marco.org/124697680
- his philosophy on Apple using artificial delay: http://www.marco.org/98546611

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Adurbe
Member since:
2005-07-06

If I choose to ignore the guidelines they setout and spend £££ on dev time, that is my choice.

Take an example

Skype producing an iphone app.

The rules PLAINLY stipulate that that this kind of app is against the rules. If you develop it anyway, expect it to be rejected.

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BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

Great. Too bad about the other 99% of the time, when iPhone apps are rejected for reasons* that have nothing to do with those rules (which are stupid and arbitrary to begin with).

*if the random, arbitrary whims of Apple staff can rightly be called "reasons," that is.

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Eddyspeeder Member since:
2006-05-10

Precisely. See the links I posted in my above comment.

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