Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Aug 2011 17:47 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems The race to the bottom has wrecked havoc in the PC industry. The only PC maker with decent margins is Apple, and even they aren't doing anything particularly innovative. Razor, though, wants to buck the trend. After a ballsy marketing campaign, the company has unveiled the Razer Blade. The Razer Blade is what you get when you combine the team behind OQO, add some engineers from Dell, Apple, and others, and tell them to design the thinnest, most stylish gaming laptop - no questions asked. The result is striking.
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v And?
by bloodline on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:04 UTC
RE: And?
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:09 UTC in reply to "And?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

An expensive plastic laptop with gimmicky extras we'll never use. Let's watch this disappear without a trace... ;)


It's aluminium unibody, not plastic.

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RE[2]: And?
by bloodline on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:31 UTC in reply to "RE: And?"
bloodline Member since:
2008-07-28

" An expensive plastic laptop with gimmicky extras we'll never use. Let's watch this disappear without a trace... ;)
It's aluminium unibody, not plastic. "

Then I apologise for misreading the article... But I still fail to see what is special for the consumer... I appreciate that it has some fun toys for the tech enthusiast, but laptops are commodity items, you need to really appeal to the general public if you want to make a success of it.

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RE[3]: And?
by molnarcs on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:38 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: And?"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

"[q] An expensive plastic laptop with gimmicky extras we'll never use. Let's watch this disappear without a trace... ;)
It's aluminium unibody, not plastic. "

Then I apologise for misreading the article... But I still fail to see what is special for the consumer... I appreciate that it has some fun toys for the tech enthusiast, but laptops are commodity items, you need to really appeal to the general public if you want to make a success of it. [/q]

Yeah, you're right. Take, for example, Ferraris. I still fail to see what is special for the consumer... I appreciate that it has some fun toys for the car enthusiast, but cards are commodity items, you need to really appeal to the general public if you want to make a success of it. I think Ferrari should close it's doors and focus on what the average consumer wants. They would be far more successful.

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RE[4]: And?
by bloodline on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:57 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: And?"
bloodline Member since:
2008-07-28

"[q][q] An expensive plastic laptop with gimmicky extras we'll never use. Let's watch this disappear without a trace... ;)
It's aluminium unibody, not plastic. " Then I apologise for misreading the article... But I still fail to see what is special for the consumer... I appreciate that it has some fun toys for the tech enthusiast, but laptops are commodity items, you need to really appeal to the general public if you want to make a success of it. [/q] Yeah, you're right. Take, for example, Ferraris. I still fail to see what is special for the consumer... I appreciate that it has some fun toys for the car enthusiast, but cards are commodity items, you need to really appeal to the general public if you want to make a success of it. I think Ferrari should close it's doors and focus on what the average consumer wants. They would be far more successful. [/q]


I'm happy to be proven wrong, I'm just a guy sitting at home with not much going on and an opinion... ;)

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RE[5]: And?
by molnarcs on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:22 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: And?"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

nah I don't want to be very harsh, I'm just surprised at the overly negative response to this. Regardless of the price, they did came out with something unique I think. Thing is, we are not the target audience for this - but I can imagine a sizeable rich parent's kids market who would want this gadget ;)

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RE[6]: And?
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:26 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: And?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Especially now that Apple is insanely mainstream and boring. This could be just what the rich hipster ordered - gamer or no.

And once a few of these sell, you can expect Razor to produce cheaper versions - 15", maybe 13". That's a very common strategy for new toys like this.

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v RE[7]: And?
by Joy_Division_Lives! on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:42 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: And?"
RE[7]: And?
by molnarcs on Sat 27th Aug 2011 04:56 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: And?"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

Especially now that Apple is insanely mainstream and boring. This could be just what the rich hipster ordered - gamer or no.

And once a few of these sell, you can expect Razor to produce cheaper versions - 15", maybe 13". That's a very common strategy for new toys like this.

Well, we'll see how they do in the marketing department. Despite Apple being pretty much mainstream, they still manage to convince people that it's sooo special (not to mention magical!) to own an Apple product. I'm not saying Razor needs to be as good as Apple at marketing, but they have to be fairly good to sell.

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RE[7]: And?
by kristoph on Mon 29th Aug 2011 05:00 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: And?"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

Rich hipsters don't run windows.

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RE[6]: And?
by bloodline on Fri 26th Aug 2011 20:02 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: And?"
bloodline Member since:
2008-07-28

nah I don't want to be very harsh, I'm just surprised at the overly negative response to this. Regardless of the price, they did came out with something unique I think. Thing is, we are not the target audience for this - but I can imagine a sizeable rich parent's kids market who would want this gadget ;)


Actually i think you're right, my reaction was overly negative... I guess that comes from being an Amiga Fan ;)

The market could do with another desirable device, right now only the MacBook air 11" has made me reach for my credit card... But I quickly put it away again... I don't need a new laptop right now ;)

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RE[4]: And?
by JAlexoid on Sat 27th Aug 2011 02:56 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: And?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Ferrari will get you laid.
This laptop? Will help you find porn...

Ferrari is a brand that goes beyond the enthusiast market. In itself it's a well known luxury brand.

However, there probably is a small market for these laptops, but I doubt that that price will make this laptop a long lasting product. Not because they should focus on the consumer market, but because the market is ridiculously small and they can't charge extremely high prices.

Returning back to Ferrari - they sell a few thousand cars at huge prices. This one's price can't be as high as Ferrari would charge and it isn't.

Edited 2011-08-27 02:58 UTC

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RE[4]: And?
by unclefester on Sat 27th Aug 2011 09:35 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: And?"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Ferrari are a technology development platform for FIAT. They don't make money out of selling them.

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RE[3]: And?
by galvanash on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: And?"
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I appreciate that it has some fun toys for the tech enthusiast, but laptops are commodity items, you need to really appeal to the general public if you want to make a success of it.


That is a very odd statement... Your complaining that a product aimed specifically at people with the means and desire to buy something that is NOT a commodity item is somehow destined to fail because it isn't one... The whole point is that it is not commodity! The general public isn't the target audience...

Regardless, I just hope for their sack that price includes a very healthy margin - they certainly won't sell a ton of them but I hope they can make enough money to keep going with the concept. It is frankly about time someone tried to build a product that really differentiates them instead of just playing musical components.

Apple does it, but they do it with elegant but minimalist design. This is certainly a a totally different approach. Their market is going to be much much smaller, but it could work I think.

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RE[4]: And?
by unclefester on Sat 27th Aug 2011 09:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: And?"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

A Ferrari isn't obsolete within 18 months.

Today's fast laptop is tomorrows expensive paperweight.

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RE[2]: And?
by kaiwai on Sat 27th Aug 2011 02:10 UTC in reply to "RE: And?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

It's aluminium unibody, not plastic.


It looks really nice but what would be nicer is if there was a 'in house' operating system based on FreeBSD with a number of gaming vendors getting behind that said platform - nice hardware is all very good but it is the software that makes the hardware either perform well or die in its ass.

It is a step in the right direction but the vendor needs something more than just 'nice looking', there needs to be the x factor that makes it different from other nice looking PC laptops which is where the software comes into play.

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RE[3]: And?
by Johann Chua on Sat 27th Aug 2011 05:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: And?"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

Building a new OS just for games? And why based on FreeBSD in particular?

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RE[4]: And?
by kaiwai on Sat 27th Aug 2011 14:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: And?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Building a new OS just for games?


No, it would be a general purpose operating system but fine tuned and tweaked for their hardware design.

And why based on FreeBSD in particular?


Because it has a stable driver API/ABI for starters, it is BSD licensed which allows one to create proprietary driver modules without having to deal with shims etc. There are lots more reasons I can think of it I'm sure if you're thinking along the same weave length as I am that it'll click for you too.

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RE[5]: And?
by Johann Chua on Sun 28th Aug 2011 05:27 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: And?"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

FreeBSD does have the best performance of all the x86-based open-source Unix-like OSes. I just don't see any generic PC hardware company going to the trouble of making a custom OS in this day and age. On the other hand it'd be pretty cool if whoever buys HP's PC division decides to offer support for something like Haiku or AROS (don't think WebOS is suitable for desktop use unless you basically make a touchscreen iMac).

Would be interesting to see open-source support for the Razer Blade's touchpad. I'm assuming only Windows is supported OOTB, same as those dual-touchscreen laptops.

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RE[6]: And?
by kaiwai on Tue 30th Aug 2011 01:38 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: And?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

FreeBSD does have the best performance of all the x86-based open-source Unix-like OSes. I just don't see any generic PC hardware company going to the trouble of making a custom OS in this day and age. On the other hand it'd be pretty cool if whoever buys HP's PC division decides to offer support for something like Haiku or AROS (don't think WebOS is suitable for desktop use unless you basically make a touchscreen iMac).

Would be interesting to see open-source support for the Razer Blade's touchpad. I'm assuming only Windows is supported OOTB, same as those dual-touchscreen laptops.


HP is an interesting case because they already have two in house operating systems that at their core are pretty frigging awesome - Imagine OpenVMS ported to x64 with a nice GUI, good hardware support and HP working with the big names to get their software on the platform. Rock solid core, a sexy GUI and great hardware support - HP could then command maybe $200 more for their mid range computer simply by offering something different. I know if HP were offering HP computers for slightly more but with the sexy OpenVMS I outlined I'd purchase it without hesitation.

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Fail
by Luke McCarthy on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:20 UTC
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2005-07-06

They might sell ten, if they're lucky. It doesn't matter how awesome it looks, very few people will be able and willing to drop almost 3 grand on a laptop for gaming with a mediocre GPU.

"we don't care about the market at large - we do care about the PC gamer"

This makes no sense. PC gamers ARE the market at large (or at least they used to be in the golden age 1980s-early 2000s). It seems like instead of wanting to spread PC gaming to the masses, they want to further exclude people and turn it into some sort of elitist club for people with more money than sense.

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RE: Fail
by molnarcs on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:25 UTC in reply to "Fail"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

You have the worst case of ... laptop-envy. Seek out help.

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RE[2]: Fail
by Luke McCarthy on Fri 26th Aug 2011 23:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Fail"
Luke McCarthy Member since:
2005-07-06

Um, what? I don't even like laptops. I try to avoid using them whenever possible.

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RE[3]: Fail
by molnarcs on Sat 27th Aug 2011 05:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Fail"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

Um, what? I don't even like laptops. I try to avoid using them whenever possible.

See, I knew something was wrong with your head.

HINT: there's nothing wrong with avoiding using laptops or disliking them. The fact that you commented here, however, is kinda odd. I mean if you're not interested in laptops whatsoever, even try to avoid them, why the hell are you reading this and commenting here? I'm not interested in cars, for example. They don't impress me at all, not even luxury cars. I think it would be weird if I went to a message board about cars and started posting "meh, I don't like it" for each new car news.

Edited 2011-08-27 05:22 UTC

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RE: Fail
by kragil on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:30 UTC in reply to "Fail"
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2006-01-04

If they advertise and sell worldwide then they might find their customers. There are a lot of wealthy gamers on this planet. They just need to get the word out.

PS. I wouldn't buy it under no circumstances and I don't think that there are so many people who can afford this kind of travel luxury is a good thing, but still they might sell.

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RE: Fail
by galvanash on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:50 UTC in reply to "Fail"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

That is why no one buys $800 video cards... Oh wait...

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RE: Fail
by oinet on Sat 27th Aug 2011 18:18 UTC in reply to "Fail"
oinet Member since:
2010-03-23

It seems like instead of wanting to spread PC gaming to the masses, they want to further exclude people and turn it into some sort of elitist club for people with more money than sense.


Unfortunately sometimes I wonder if the masses don't have more money than sense...

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WOW!
by molnarcs on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:24 UTC
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I've never ever been WOWed by any laptop. There's a first for everything I guess. It looks amazing. Works amazingly well - according to engadget. I had to say that - now let the cynical "meh" comments commence.

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RE: WOW!
by allanregistos on Sat 27th Aug 2011 05:26 UTC in reply to "WOW!"
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2011-02-10

I've never ever been WOWed by any laptop. There's a first for everything I guess. It looks amazing. Works amazingly well - according to engadget. I had to say that - now let the cynical "meh" comments commence.

If they want a gaming rig of highest quality, they must also create a gaming desktop, if they are serious enough to cater the gaming community.
While you can do high-end games on a laptop, it comes with a hefty price tag, while you can do more high-end games on a desktop with a descent price tag.

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USArmyRecon
Member since:
2011-08-26

Am I the only one who looks at the "UI" on this product and sees the Nintendo Game Glove? Looks pretty neat at first, but turns out to be totally non-functional?
My Asus G73sw has very near the same specs (aside from having 5 times as much storage at 1.5T) and I paid under $1700 for it.
Definitely fail. Alienware fail.

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Comment by bnolsen
by bnolsen on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:33 UTC
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2006-01-06

Cool, they dumped the optical drive! I like this trend. If someone *has* to have one I think they can buy that USB dongle which fakes itself as an optical drive.

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RE: Comment by bnolsen
by Luke McCarthy on Fri 26th Aug 2011 23:20 UTC in reply to "Comment by bnolsen"
Luke McCarthy Member since:
2005-07-06

I guess you would need one to install games, unless you get everything on Steam.

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RE[2]: Comment by bnolsen
by JThelen on Sat 27th Aug 2011 00:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by bnolsen"
JThelen Member since:
2011-02-02

Personally, I can't think of any game on my laptop that I need physical media to install from, and yea, probably 80% of it is on steam, with the last 20% split between Blizzard and GoG.com.

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RE: Comment by bnolsen
by bert64 on Sat 27th Aug 2011 15:37 UTC in reply to "Comment by bnolsen"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

And how about for those games with onerous DRM that requires a physical CD to be in the drive?
Sure you could try using a software CD emulator, but thats what the pirates do and a DRM update could break it.

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Wrong placement for the touchpad
by sicofante on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:36 UTC
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2009-07-08

No matter what nice it is, the fact that it's an LCD with info on it and has 10 programmable keys. That place is wrong for a touchpad.

One of the nice things of using a laptop is having the touchpad within reach of your fingers without having to raise your hand -like you do when typing- because it's just there.

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Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

No matter what nice it is, the fact that it's an LCD with info on it and has 10 programmable keys.


Unlike real keys, those programmable keys don't give tactile information. Positioning the fingers properly requires watching it, and there is no "evidence" that you have successfully pressed a programmable key by the "input" from your hand. On the other side, especially changing gaming functions could make good use of it, given there is a programming interface for it which game developers can use.

That place is wrong for a touchpad.


For lefthanders maybe? :-)

One of the nice things of using a laptop is having the touchpad within reach of your fingers without having to raise your hand -like you do when typing- because it's just there.


I think it's quite possible for users who often use that additional feature to customize their habits. For example, I'm using a Sun USB keyboard with 2 x 5 keys on the left, and 4 additional ones on the top right. As they are fully programmable, they can be used for coding, for window manager control, for multimedia stuff, for launching programs and so on. The fact that they are "just there" makes them pleasant to use, and allow a very good combination of keyboard and mouse functionality. You can even understand it as "an additional set of mouse buttons", or depending on program or context, they can have different functions.

This kind of combination of the different input methods are often considered effective by gamers who use keyboard and mouse "in parallel" to control various gaming features. In my opinion, the "LCD keypad" - except its inability to give tactile info - can be a benefit here.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

That place is wrong for a touchpad.


That is a matter of taste, it is definitely not a fact in any way. I literally HATE how the touchpad is always in the way, uncomfortable, and makes it hard to use either it or the keyboard efficiently. Placing the touchpad on the right, out of the way, is definitely the way to go for my tastes.

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Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:36 UTC
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2007-03-30

That video is so painful. There is so much wrong here that my ability to manage and summarize bullshit is being overcome. Okay, they're just idiot liars with a fruity product.

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Side benefit
by fretinator on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:41 UTC
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2005-07-06

It can be used to treat testicular cancer.

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what of hardware drivers?
by jabbotts on Fri 26th Aug 2011 18:46 UTC
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2007-09-06

That is some very nice looking hardware but even my gaming rig at home is built as a dualboot. Razer, can we expect to see hardware well supported by industry standards across OS or some driver code handed over to the Debian folk to be included into Deb and all fork distros (read; *buntu) benefit?

And, for the folks that are going to point out that this is a gaming specialty rig; look at that hardware. You telling me you couldn't find some use for this lovely clamshell and some custom mappings for those Optimus Maximus keys?

(www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/)

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RE: what of hardware drivers?
by rebel787 on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:11 UTC in reply to "what of hardware drivers?"
rebel787 Member since:
2007-01-13

I'm hoping for the same + an amd version...

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$2,799 :|
by n0xx on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:05 UTC
n0xx
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2005-07-12

Shut up and give me your money so I can tell them to shut up and take my money... ;)

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VectorAlpha
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2011-08-26

First off, thanks for the quick review; I just saw this announced on facebook (via EA/Battlefield 3 link) and OSNews had the quickest low-down on the Razor company's new laptop - it's specs, and their raison d'etre for making this laptop. I am an avid PC Gamer for years now, own an Alienware laptop and an Alienware desktop - an ALX-54, which for you doubters as to the true PC gamers motivation for spending way-too-much-money on their gaming systems, here it is 2 years later and with minor tweaks (new SSD drive and more RAM) my system is still in the top 5% of ALL platforms out there - and I must say this Razer Blade is a gamers dream!
Of course in the current economy unfortunately even I am a little put-off by this MAC-priced gem, so I may have to wait until ASUS and Dell jumps on board with their ultra-thin copy-cat knock-offs, no doubt just as powerful but for a much more friendly price!
But if your in the mood for some portable gaming goodness, and your budget allows for a three-grand ding, I'm gonna give this machine a thumbs-up!
Anyhew, thanks OSNews for the great review! Game Over Man!

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Comment by mieses
by mieses on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:34 UTC
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2006-02-07

Some nice ideas but I would not invest a lot of money in a Razer product. I've wasted a lot of time dealing with their crappy engineering.

For example, Razer mice can get "bricked" due to firmware bugs. If you are stupid enough to put software inside a mouse, you better make sure the software works! Gamers need reliable hardware, not just good looking hardware.

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Comment by SaschaW
by SaschaW on Fri 26th Aug 2011 19:35 UTC
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2007-07-19

I think this laptop is really cool and exiting. A bit expensive for my wallet, but once they reach cult status, they will sell like Apples :-)

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Grammar check
by grammarian on Fri 26th Aug 2011 20:20 UTC
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2011-08-26

"The race to the bottom has wrecked havoc ..."

Shouldn't that be wreaked?

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RE: Grammar check
by BeamishBoy on Sat 27th Aug 2011 01:51 UTC in reply to "Grammar check"
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Yup. Just about forgivable for someone for whom English is not a first language though.

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Thanks, but no thanks
by quackalist on Fri 26th Aug 2011 20:56 UTC
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2007-08-27

Think I'll keep my 'decent margins' to myself and cheer on the "The race to the bottom[that]has wrecked havoc in the PC industry". Besides, apart from an aluminium body which would be nice the extras seem more of an annoyance;but,even though I'm no gamer I can't see it being much of a success even to those who are.

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RE: Thanks, but no thanks
by Soulbender on Sat 27th Aug 2011 04:42 UTC in reply to "Thanks, but no thanks "
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Gamers has water-cooling and colored blinkenlights in their cases. They buy mice and keyboards with 5 billion buttons and features.
Why wouldn't this be a hit? (Aside from the fact that it is actually understated and elegant...)

Edited 2011-08-27 04:44 UTC

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...
by fran on Fri 26th Aug 2011 21:32 UTC
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2010-08-06

"Razer makes some extremely odd mice and keyboards specifically for gamers"

Not really. Their product generally has beautiful clean lines.

http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169415...

http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169419...

There is also netbook styled gaming laptop from Razer on the horizon.
http://www.neowin.net/news/razers-switchblade-to-use-intels-latest-...

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Law suit?
by drstorm on Fri 26th Aug 2011 22:03 UTC
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This laptop kinda reminds me of Macbook Pro. Do you think Apple will sue?

I wouldn't be surprised if the aluminum casing is patented somehow...

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Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Fri 26th Aug 2011 22:24 UTC
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2010-06-08

For gaming you don't need an ultra thin laptop. That factor is a bit out of place here. For example Sager NP7280 sounds more like it:
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_info&model_name...

No OS option here, for open source fans:
http://www.powernotebooks.com/Sager-NP7280-gaming-laptops-notebooks...

Paying even less money, you get better specs (much more bulky form of course).

Edited 2011-08-26 22:29 UTC

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RE: Comment by shmerl
by AdamW on Sun 28th Aug 2011 17:12 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

right, that was my thought. thinness aids portability, but this thing is a 7lb brick no matter how thin it is: it's a luggable, not an ultraportable. if i'm going to buy what's effectively a desktop replacement laptop and take the weight hit in exchange for the big screen and a bit of performance, I'm not really going to sweat an inch of thickness.

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Eye candy
by Not2Sure on Sat 27th Aug 2011 05:14 UTC
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2009-12-07

Not sure I would plunk down that cash on a Cougar Point (with all of its woes including RTM bugs on the SATA ports) based laptop and an undepowered graphics part.

Panther point products should be shipping soon and a 485M (cheaper) or a 580M (future proof) would be a much better solution.

The new Sony Vaio Z offloading the gpu to the external optical bay drive via Thunderbolt seems like the way to go with desktop replacement/"gamer" laptops to me. Kinda slick.

I haven't heard a good thing from anyone who owns an "optimus" powered laptop. They always complain about it switching at the worst possible times. Not sure if it's a reliable complaint though.

Regardless, the engineering that goes into these things is commendable.

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sooo... Apple like :D
by kovacm on Sat 27th Aug 2011 06:00 UTC
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2010-12-16

"So, in short, there's no market if you ask the guy in the suit, but we've designed something that we have always wanted for ourselves - we don't care about the market at large - we do care about the PC gamer,"

they learned from the best! this is so Apple like ;)

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$
by MamiyaOtaru on Sat 27th Aug 2011 08:26 UTC
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2005-11-11

how much did you get paid to run this ad? ;)

Obviously it's more likely you just like it and posted the praise honestly. I'm not with you on it though. This thing is priced far too high. Maybe acceptable for a semi upper end (and thin!) laptop, but way too high after that ad they ran about "pc gaming is not dead!" - ( http://reimarufiles.com/2011/08/24/pc-gaming-is-not-dead/ )

It was an embarrassing ad, and this, with its price point, is an embarrassing followup. Yeah, a $2800 laptop will really pull people away from consoles. Great going Razer

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Comment by sgtarky
by sgtarky on Sat 27th Aug 2011 14:07 UTC
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2006-01-02

I see it has an nvidia gfx card...so it should melt itself down pretty shortly. nvidia not good in laptops too freaking hot. My asus averages 88C it has gotten to 120c, one of my hps became a doorstop because the nvidia chip unsoldered itself lol

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RE: Comment by sgtarky
by bouhko on Sat 27th Aug 2011 16:28 UTC in reply to "Comment by sgtarky"
bouhko Member since:
2010-06-24

I had the exact same reaction. The i7 Macbook pro get so freaking hot under heavy load that it either makes your hand sweat while playing or makes you use an external keyboard. The razer doesn't seem to have much more fans than the Macbook, so I guess it will be the same story.

I would really like to see a test on how it feels after 2 hours of playing some last-gen game.

Other than that, looks pretty nice. Would love a 15 inches version with a standard touchpad. It's quite expensive too...

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nice
by Nex6 on Sun 28th Aug 2011 01:37 UTC
Nex6
Member since:
2005-07-06

i read a few of the reviews, and watched the full video razer has posted. if anything, its different and I think its actually pretty cool.

if they can keep the quality up, they may sell quite a few....

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Also glad to see something risky
by zlynx on Sun 28th Aug 2011 04:05 UTC
zlynx
Member since:
2005-07-20

I'm really glad to see a company trying something that isn't the same old rehash of what everyone else is doing. If everything is the same, there's no point in even having different companies!

I like the idea. I'd have to really try the touchpad design to know if I'd buy it. As for the slim design, that's a plus because part of owning an expensive laptop is for other people to look at it and wish they had one. That is the point of almost every luxury brand. So to be successful it has to look awesome. Also, because it is a portable computer it needs to be actually portable, which means a massive Alienware style design is the wrong idea. A guy at work almost put his back out bringing his 17" Alienware into the conference room. :-)

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I'm really glad to see a company trying something that isn't the same old rehash of what everyone else is doing. If everything is the same, there's no point in even having different companies!


I really do have to agree with you. It's simply GREAT that a CEO has the balls to ignore market research completely and just whip out something he and his team themselves like.

No, the laptop isn't going to be a huge hit, but then again, they're not even aiming it at the general populace. I find it extremely neat, good-looking and all, and if I could afford it I'd buy one in a heartbeat just to support this kind of out-of-the-box thinking. Not to mention that then I'd own a laptop that'll make all my friends green from envy.

Unfortunately I can't afford it nor do I date any rich guy who'd buy it for me. :/

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One snag
by vodoomoth on Sun 28th Aug 2011 13:10 UTC
vodoomoth
Member since:
2010-03-30

There is one (minor) problem that I see with it: I can't see the usual pair of 3.25mm outlets for audio out and mic in. I wonder how people are going to manage music and vocal chats when most headphones with a mic come with twin jacks at the end of one cable.

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RE: One snag
by Neolander on Sun 28th Aug 2011 14:48 UTC in reply to "One snag"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

It is an hybrid input/output jack, with 4 wires, like the ones you see on most cellphones nowadays. I think there are adapters to plug dual-jack headsets on those, but I can't guarantee that.

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RE: One snag
by Neolander on Sun 28th Aug 2011 16:31 UTC in reply to "One snag"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08
RE: One snag
by vault on Sun 28th Aug 2011 18:11 UTC in reply to "One snag"
vault Member since:
2005-09-15

Actually, many new headsets are USB based and do their own sound processing, which is not a bad thing unless you already have an expensive sound card.

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Mature market
by bfr99 on Sun 28th Aug 2011 13:53 UTC
bfr99
Member since:
2007-03-15

The classic sign of a mature market is that product differentiation is based on pricing and styling not functionality.

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RE: Mature market
by Nex6 on Mon 29th Aug 2011 00:10 UTC in reply to "Mature market"
Nex6 Member since:
2005-07-06

i agree, and I have had this talk with others. the "PC/laptop" market is maturing and stabilizing.

most of the really new "action" will be in tablets and devices. because the stable and mature "PC/laptop" devices will last longer...

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