Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Apr 2012 15:01 UTC
Legal Since it's Easter (it spans two days in The Netherlands), what better to talk about than patents? Microsoft has just bought most of AOL's patents, and took up a license for the remainder bit they didn't buy. Microsoft also bought all the patents belonging to AOL subsidiary Netscape. Uh-oh.
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A clammy hand in the operations.
by ParadoxUncreated on Mon 9th Apr 2012 15:11 UTC
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2009-12-05

I can clearly see a clammy hand, clasping patents as the last breath of life, against open source.

Microsoft is known for their tactics and this is quite clearly a move in the same fashion.

So, should our society be reigned by commercial structures damaging to ourself, or should sense prevail?

Vote for.. um the guy who knew this.

Edited 2012-04-09 15:11 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Well last week they open sourced the whole ASP.NET MVC framework ... so your theory is utter bullshit.

They is also in the top 20 Linux contributors.

Microsoft is dying stuff is getting old.

Edited 2012-04-09 17:19 UTC

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TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

Well, in a way Microsoft is dying. Or at least the old Microsoft is dying. They are finally realizing that people are more than happy to use open source just to avoid their corporate bullshit. Also remember that Microsoft had to be called out before they donated that code to the kernel. They were originally just distributing closed drivers. In case you forget, here is the osnews.com article:

http://www.osnews.com/story/21882/Microsoft_s_Linux_Kernel_Code_Dro...

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Priest Member since:
2006-05-12

Everyone thought open source would kick MS butt but it ended up being and even more litigious and more controlling company, Apple. Apple proved that a few people good at making decisions can make a better product than committee.

A lot of really smart people had ideas about what Linux needed to do to beat Microsoft and being smart didn't stop them from being wrong. Hedging my position in these battles and watching them unfold I have learned some important lessons. One of which has been to have more faith in myself and be more willing to to politely discard the opinion/advice of others.

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tuma324 Member since:
2010-04-09

Everyone thought open source would kick MS butt but it ended up being and even more litigious and more controlling company, Apple. Apple proved that a few people good at making decisions can make a better product than committee.

A lot of really smart people had ideas about what Linux needed to do to beat Microsoft and being smart didn't stop them from being wrong. Hedging my position in these battles and watching them unfold I have learned some important lessons. One of which has been to have more faith in myself and be more willing to to politely discard the opinion/advice of others.


And Apple is a open source company? How? Just because they have WebKit? Yeah right. They haven't contributed anything to open source.

Apple is a controlling company. Period.

The war between open source and Microsoft is not over yet. The fact that you see Microsoft contributing to Linux shows that open source is winning. Open source is now too strong that they can't avoid it anymore. Therefore is our way or the highway.

Stop spreading FUD.

Edited 2012-04-10 14:49 UTC

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broken_symlink Member since:
2005-07-06

Priest is not saying that Apple is an open source company. The comment is saying that people thought linux and open source would be the end of Microsoft, but it actually turned out that it took a company that is even more controlling than Microsoft is (ie Apple) to cause Microsoft some pain.

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tuma324 Member since:
2010-04-09

Priest is not saying that Apple is an open source company. The comment is saying that people thought linux and open source would be the end of Microsoft, but it actually turned out that it took a company that is even more controlling than Microsoft is (ie Apple) to cause Microsoft some pain.


Oh really? and how exactly Apple "hurt" Microsoft?

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Everyone thought open source would kick MS butt


It is but maybe not in the desktop space.

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Comment by Stephen!
by Stephen! on Mon 9th Apr 2012 15:32 UTC
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2007-11-24

Only 800 or so patents. I'd have thought AOL would have a lot more than that.

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MS Owns
by transami on Mon 9th Apr 2012 16:22 UTC
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2006-02-28

Does it seem like that antitrust suits against MS back in the day just proved a means for Microsoft to learn who to pay graft too?

You get the feeling that MS owns just about everything in the CS world in some fashion or another.

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I am not surprised
by RipisDad on Mon 9th Apr 2012 16:59 UTC
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2012-04-09

Microsoft's philosophy: If you can't beat them, buy them, therefore eliminating the competition.......

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Microsoft is teh ebilz
by SlackerD on Mon 9th Apr 2012 17:22 UTC
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2012-01-16

OMG! Microsoft is teh ebilz! THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE!!ONEONEONE!

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Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Mon 9th Apr 2012 17:38 UTC
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2010-06-08

When MS buy patents one can be sure they'll use it for sinister things, or will just resell them to other shadowy trolls. It's like a drugs or weapons black market. It's a real shame that they got Netscape's patents though.

Edited 2012-04-09 17:39 UTC

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RE: Comment by shmerl
by lucas_maximus on Mon 9th Apr 2012 17:45 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Because how Microsoft does business is actually like "Lord of War" starring Nicholas Cage ...

:|

You know actually crime syndicates do horrible things. Like the Camorra,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camorra

Other than killing each other, civilians, ripping off local businesses ... they also dump waste on the streets as well as chemical waste that is killing off crops in Italy.

When Microsoft starts this sort of stuff ... I would support your point of view they are a criminal organisation.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by moondevil on Mon 9th Apr 2012 18:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Yeah, some people forget that there are more important problems in the world than caring about IBMs, Microsofts, Googles and Apples.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by Soulbender on Thu 12th Apr 2012 07:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Yeah, and MS isn't evil either. Calling MS evil just devalues the meaning of the word.
On the scale of evilness MS ranks pretty far down. There are many companies and organizations/groups/whatever that have done, and continues to do, far worse things than MS.
That said, it's not like they're altar boys either. White collar crime is still a crime.

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RE: Comment by shmerl
by SlackerD on Mon 9th Apr 2012 17:56 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
SlackerD Member since:
2012-01-16

When MS buy patents one can be sure they'll use it for sinister things, or will just resell them to other shadowy trolls. It's like a drugs or weapons black market. It's a real shame that they got Netscape's patents though.


/facepalm

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Selling patents should be outlawed.
by dsmogor on Tue 10th Apr 2012 14:38 UTC
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2005-09-01

As simple as that. Patents were an exception from a free market to help an inventor, nobody else.
Turing patents into a obtainable good is an aberration of that notion.

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Comment by andih
by andih on Tue 10th Apr 2012 19:03 UTC
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2010-03-27

Microsoft as we know it is slowly dyeing as Bring Your Own Device (BYOD) is getting increasingly common.

In the future we can stream heavy apps through a browser, no need to deploy msi files or crap to clients, and no need to use windows. All will work, as long as you got a browser. ;)

I'm really enjoying the thought of this, and I wish MS worst luck. But its a big beast, and will make a livin hell for all while it dies.

Use linux and open source and make the world a better place ;)

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