Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 25th Jan 2007 19:17 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris As revealed yesterday, Mandriva today released a special version of its Mandriva One 2007 distribution, using the 'Metisse' 3D environment (which is actually not a 3D environment). "Metisse is a window manager developed by the In Situ project. Available under the General Public Licence exclusively for Linux, Metisse differs from a classic 3D desktop ('the cube') in the way that it offers innovative windows interactions, thus enforcing work efficiency."
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useless
by superstoned on Thu 25th Jan 2007 19:49 UTC
superstoned
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2005-07-07

it's nice they try new stuff, but really, it's useless... pretty much like compiz, actually.

ok, it's not all bad, a few things can be used in some rare cases, and they certainly look cool - but again, apart from the experimentation, how are they going to be usefull?

maybe something comes out of this, and we can thank mandriva for supporting it, sure. let's hope so, then.

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IT'S UNNECESSARY COOL
by bsdnewbieee on Thu 25th Jan 2007 19:51 UTC
bsdnewbieee
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2007-01-24

Looks cool. And totally unnecessary.
I'm used to be a Mandrake fan.

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I disagree
by franz on Thu 25th Jan 2007 19:59 UTC
franz
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2006-07-26

The visual drag-n-drop looks pretty useful (especially for new computer users--it's just like leafing through a stack op papers), but I'd rather see this being implemented as part of Compiz.

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cd iso > 700MB
by vnpenguin on Thu 25th Jan 2007 20:10 UTC
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2005-08-27

> Mandriva-2007.0-One-Metisse.i586.iso (701MB, MD5).

Can't burn to CD with this iso, 701MB>700 ;)

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RE: cd iso > 700MB
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 25th Jan 2007 20:14 UTC in reply to "cd iso > 700MB"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Use DVD-R?

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RE: cd iso > 700MB
by dylansmrjones on Thu 25th Jan 2007 20:38 UTC in reply to "cd iso > 700MB"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Hmm... I usually don't have problems burning cd's with ISO files slightly larger than 700 MB.

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RE: cd iso > 700MB
by markbrophy on Fri 26th Jan 2007 14:35 UTC in reply to "cd iso > 700MB"
markbrophy Member since:
2005-07-18

Most CDRs are actually about 703MB. You should be fine...

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Big Linux?
by leech on Thu 25th Jan 2007 20:12 UTC
leech
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2006-01-10

I've played with the Metisse set up before. Big Linux 2.0 had it on their liveCD. Unfortunately it was all in Portuguese. But it was kind of cool. This was a long time ago though, nice to see someone else using it, though is Mandriva just using it so that they're not another "Me too!" on compiz / beryl?

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Exclusively?
by antik on Thu 25th Jan 2007 20:45 UTC
antik
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2006-05-19

Available under the General Public Licence exclusively for Linux....

I thought Linux is all about freedom? Sry, GNU/Linux.

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RE: Exclusively?
by Beta on Thu 25th Jan 2007 21:22 UTC in reply to "Exclusively?"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

Exclusive is the right word! Until you port it, it can only run on X/Linux ;)

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RE: Exclusively?
by Hurtta on Fri 26th Jan 2007 05:49 UTC in reply to "Exclusively?"
Hurtta Member since:
2006-04-16

And on Mandriva's metisse product page it states:

Available under the GPL Licence and in exclusivity for Mandriva Linux

GPL and exclusivity on some distro don't walk too well together:)

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RE[2]: Exclusively?
by boklm on Fri 26th Jan 2007 17:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Exclusively?"
boklm Member since:
2006-07-31

They probably mean that Mandriva Linux is the only to integrate that at the moment. Not that it will stay the only one in the futur.

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Once thing is for sure...
by cmost on Thu 25th Jan 2007 20:52 UTC
cmost
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2006-07-16

Linux will certainly have the best looking desktop and with the most choices available. With Beryl/Compiz and now Metisse, it's finally happening for desktop Linux. While many of these 3D desktop effects are superfluous eye candy with no real added value, they do LOOK cool. And if there's one thing Microsoft and Apple have proven, form (i.e., eye candy) wins out over function hands down. Take the iPod for example: there are many mp3 players on the market that beat it in features and functionality but none of them have captured the "coolness" factor like Apple's offering. Having a lot of options is good early on as it promotes competition and rapid development. Soon, however, the creme de la creme will be adopted and the rest will simply fade away. May the best features win! I completely expect Metisse functionality to be present in a not-too-distant version of Compiz or Beryl. Mandriva has at least introduced this to the masses for bug testing and improvement. Good job Mandriva!

Edited 2007-01-25 20:54

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RE: Once thing is for sure...
by ari-free on Thu 25th Jan 2007 21:14 UTC in reply to "Once thing is for sure..."
ari-free Member since:
2007-01-22

Apple doesn't just have eye candy. They have a sense of a clean style and smoothness that's not easy to match. They have whole armies of professional photoshop users and Hollywood behind them. They know what's the "in" thing.

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RE: Once thing is for sure...
by leech on Fri 26th Jan 2007 02:23 UTC in reply to "Once thing is for sure..."
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

Metisse predates compiz and beryl by at least 6 months, probably more. Big Linux 2.1 had it.

http://www.biglinux.com.br/

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RE: Once thing is for sure...
by Nutela on Fri 26th Jan 2007 17:03 UTC in reply to "Once thing is for sure..."
Nutela Member since:
2006-02-09

I still love BeOS because of it's superior window managment and interface. But many people say it doesn't look good anymore, IMO it's a very simple and clean interface.

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Didn't work
by DaaT on Fri 26th Jan 2007 15:04 UTC
DaaT
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2005-10-21

Burned and booted fine, but said my machine didn't support the 3D Desktop effects... weird because i tried a Mandriva 2007 LiveCD a couple of months ago and worked then (wasn't Metisse of course). The laptop has an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700.

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Focus
by Treza on Sat 27th Jan 2007 14:22 UTC
Treza
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2006-01-11

It seems somewhat related to the "Focus follows mouse" principle, at least the focused window shall not be toplevel.
This is a peculiarity of X windows ( I remember I first saw it more than 10 years ago on OpenLook Sun Sparc workstations...), I miss it daily at work with Windows.

Is there any poll on the ratio of users of "focus follows mouse" versus "click to focus" on Linux ?

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