Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Mar 2010 20:08 UTC
Linux Choson Minjujuui Inmin Konghwaguk, here in the west more commonly known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or North Korea, is a country you usually read about in the foreign affairs section of the newspaper. As a logical consequence of its Juche ideology, North Korea has developed its own Linux distribution.
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v They're selling it?
by Ventajou on Thu 4th Mar 2010 20:38 UTC
RE: They're selling it?
by vivainio on Thu 4th Mar 2010 20:43 UTC in reply to "They're selling it?"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Does North Korea violate the GPL by selling a linux distro? ;)


Of course not. GPL only requires you to provide means to acquire the source for people buying the distro. The distro probably also has proprietary components.

(cf. RHEL)

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RE[2]: They're selling it?
by DigitalAxis on Thu 4th Mar 2010 22:24 UTC in reply to "RE: They're selling it?"
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2005-08-28

I'm going to bet the source is available to the Eternal President, and that's all the people will ever need to know.

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RE[2]: They're selling it?
by strcpy on Sun 7th Mar 2010 08:34 UTC in reply to "RE: They're selling it?"
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2009-05-20


Of course not. GPL only requires you to provide means to acquire the source for people buying the distro. The distro probably also has proprietary components.


Good luck getting the sources from North Korea.

Oh the irony ;) .

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Damn it!
by Boldie on Thu 4th Mar 2010 20:45 UTC
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Then Ballmer was right, Linux is communistic!

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RE: Damn it!
by DigitalAxis on Thu 4th Mar 2010 22:17 UTC in reply to "Damn it!"
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2005-08-28

Exactly! That's why Windows XP and Vista are more popular there.

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v The puppet regime?
by jefro on Thu 4th Mar 2010 20:47 UTC
Comment by neticspace
by neticspace on Thu 4th Mar 2010 20:59 UTC
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North Korea is also famous for making Silver Star Baduk (go/weiqi game program).

While at it, I'm not surprised that North Korea will have a major tech boom, likely European software companies outsource North Korea.

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RE: Comment by neticspace
by asdf on Sun 7th Mar 2010 03:57 UTC in reply to "Comment by neticspace"
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I'm rather familiar with the economic/social situation in N. Korea and that seems highly doubtful to me for the foreseeable future.

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xandros anyone?
by poundsmack on Thu 4th Mar 2010 20:59 UTC
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2005-07-13

reminds me of xandros, but with a different goal.

who would have thought those WMD's george bush kept talking about were hiding inside that adorable penguin this whole time. awwww *boom*

Edited 2010-03-04 21:07 UTC

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RE: xandros anyone?
by fretinator on Thu 4th Mar 2010 21:16 UTC in reply to "xandros anyone?"
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2005-07-06

I know they both have the goal of World Domination...

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5 differences between NKLinux and XP
by fretinator on Thu 4th Mar 2010 21:01 UTC
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2005-07-06

1. My Computer has been renamed to Our Computer
2. A very powerful email client is included, but it has no send button
3. Every computer includes a free Web Cam
4. Comes with the Peoples Genuine Advantage application, that verifies if you are a legitimate copy
5. Contains free programs written by Kim Il-sung himself, such as gcc and emacs

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Timii Member since:
2010-03-05

HAHAHH, Good one ;)

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Bending Unit Member since:
2005-07-06

At this time, Score 43, is this a new record?

Edited 2010-03-05 18:42 UTC

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at least...
by AdamW on Thu 4th Mar 2010 21:21 UTC
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2005-07-06

...there's now an answer to the thorny problem of how to get a supported distro that uses KDE 3.5 as its primary desktop: move to North Korea!

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Comment by ssa2204
by ssa2204 on Thu 4th Mar 2010 21:23 UTC
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2006-04-22

Can anyone in NK even afford a computer? Does anyone even have one outside of the elites in the party? Something tells me this is NOT for the workers of the revolution, and knowing NK god only knows what weird idea is behind this.

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RE: Comment by ssa2204
by neticspace on Thu 4th Mar 2010 21:32 UTC in reply to "Comment by ssa2204"
neticspace Member since:
2009-06-09

This answers some parts of your question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyong_%28intranet%29

Internet is not used by the general public, except for banking in the Chinese branch of a North Korean bank.

Edited 2010-03-04 21:34 UTC

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RE: Comment by ssa2204
by Adurbe on Thu 4th Mar 2010 23:46 UTC in reply to "Comment by ssa2204"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

a great many trade embargoes exist against N Korea, so selling PCs to them is not very easy, wonder what kind of hardware they have managed to get...

Remember when the G4 powermac couldn't be sold abroad because it counted as a supercomputer and therefore a weapon? Those were the days....

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RE[2]: Comment - Lenovo, Acer, Asus
by jabbotts on Fri 5th Mar 2010 16:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by ssa2204"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I suspect any of the Chinese manufacturers can chip to North Korea.

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RE: Comment by ssa2204
by t3RRa on Fri 5th Mar 2010 01:02 UTC in reply to "Comment by ssa2204"
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2005-11-22

I once saw on tv, sort of a documentary about north korea's internet cafes. They are illegal but popular among ppl so ppl save money to go there to play rainbow six and so. They sat down on plastic chairs without back (lol). It was a few years back already when I saw the programme while I was in S. Korea. So.. they, at least a small number of pppl might be able to access computers I guess. But not as freely as we do, of course.

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Comment by ballmerlikesgoogle
by ballmerlikesgoogle on Fri 5th Mar 2010 00:27 UTC
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I would have to imagine if it were built by North Korean "coders" I would not be surprised if it was setup to keep an "eye" on who ever uses it.

So much for "freedom".....

Sigh....

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RE: Comment by ballmerlikesgoogle
by Lennie on Fri 5th Mar 2010 00:44 UTC in reply to "Comment by ballmerlikesgoogle"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I like you nickname. ;-)

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Not as outdated as I thought
by Lennie on Fri 5th Mar 2010 00:46 UTC
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2007-09-22

When I noticed KDE 3.x I thought it was oudated, but it came with Firefox 3.6. So it can't be that outdated.

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Nova
by Gone fishing on Fri 5th Mar 2010 03:22 UTC
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2006-02-22

N Korea's not the first communist country to develop it's own Linux didn't / isn't Cuba developing Nova as the official state OS?

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RE: Nova
by lord_rob on Fri 5th Mar 2010 07:27 UTC in reply to "Nova"
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2005-08-06

Don't know about Nova, but Red Flag is a Chinese distribution (isn't the official one of the country ?).

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RE: Nova
by Budd on Fri 5th Mar 2010 13:40 UTC in reply to "Nova"
Budd Member since:
2005-07-08

Very strange naming a product aimed at Spanish speaking people and using the name No va.

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RE[2]: Nova
by darknexus on Fri 5th Mar 2010 15:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Nova"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

True, would have thought they'd have learned that lesson. One car company tried that--think it was Chevy--and it didn't go over too well.

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License
by darknexus on Fri 5th Mar 2010 07:32 UTC
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2008-07-15

I can't help but wonder if they made any changes to KDE, Firefox, or any other underlying component to this distribution. If they did, given the way that regime likes to spy, they probably aren't releasing those modifications and they could be committing some serious license violations as a result.

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RE: License
by MamiyaOtaru on Fri 5th Mar 2010 08:39 UTC in reply to "License"
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2005-11-11

license violations? get the security council to pass a resolution. I really doubt NK would care about the license ;)

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RE[2]: License
by t3RRa on Fri 5th Mar 2010 09:02 UTC in reply to "RE: License"
t3RRa Member since:
2005-11-22

AFAIK, if the country does not care about the license, you cannot sue ppl in that country whether they mistreat the license. So.. they might not contribute back the modifications even if there's any. Well, one thing just came up into my mind.. that since the government keeps internet access from majority of ppl in the country, I wonder if the developer of the distro got access to the internet at all. To build the distro he or she might got enough resource (source code and etc) from internet under permission though, to contribute back... well I don't think that the government would allow the internet access for that purpose.

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RE[2]: License
by darknexus on Fri 5th Mar 2010 10:44 UTC in reply to "RE: License"
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2008-07-15

Didn't say they would care, just my curious mind asking the question.

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RE: License - not likely the worst infraction
by jabbotts on Fri 5th Mar 2010 16:07 UTC in reply to "License"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Violating GPL is hardly the worst license violation one could find in North Korea. They have had a very active counterfeiting black market industry for years and as of 2009 or 2008 data, where the best currency counterfeiters in the world; usually 100$ bills. Counterfeit cigarette are big too though China has general dominated that commodity.

McMafia
ISBN - 10:0887842046
ISBN - 13:9780887842047

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Great!
by pandronic on Fri 5th Mar 2010 08:44 UTC
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2006-05-18

That's really great, now they only have to get computers and they're all set.

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RE: Great!
by twitterfire on Fri 5th Mar 2010 12:39 UTC in reply to "Great!"
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2008-09-11

Too bad that Linux doesn't run on Z80 processors. Maybe they will be able to build their own version of 80286 in 10 years, though.

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RE[2]: Great!
by deathshadow on Fri 5th Mar 2010 16:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Great!"
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

I think you mean 6502. The Z-80 is a bit high-tech for them.

Though both are too mainstream - more likely to rip off something obscure like a hibachi 6803.

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RE[2]: Great!
by pandronic on Sat 6th Mar 2010 00:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Great!"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

Doesn't the Z80 need electricity?

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RE[3]: Great!
by helf on Sat 6th Mar 2010 20:03 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Great!"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

LOL

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I wonder...
by deathshadow on Fri 5th Mar 2010 12:28 UTC
deathshadow
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2005-07-12

If like with "Space Gundam V" (a Macross ripoff of sorts) they'll claim they invented Linux without outside help before Linus did.

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errors in the system
by darwinOS on Fri 5th Mar 2010 13:05 UTC
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North Korea Linux is like the Nazi-movement; they used the democratic principles to take over, than they abolished it.

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Ya knew it was coming to this...
by ctubutis on Mon 8th Mar 2010 19:17 UTC in reply to "errors in the system"
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2010-03-08

North Korea Linux is like the Nazi-movement; they used the democratic principles to take over, than they abolished it.

This thread is a successful invocation of Godwin's law:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

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Maybe tune in.
by jefro on Fri 5th Mar 2010 20:32 UTC
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2007-04-13

North Korea was correctly named as an axis of evil member. Anyone who has lived in that region for a few years would know exactly how they think and act. Take a few hours to listen to the official radio of north korea. Might not like what you hear.

The truth is the people are some of the poorest in the world. The leaders have an iron fist and boot at their throats. The leaders have extorted monies from the west to prevent nuclear arms race and have turned that wealth back into keeping the leaders in luxury and fine are.


There can be nothing good to come out of North Korea making an OS. Most likely they are trying to horn in on the scams like some of the other commie nations and a few African schemes. Might as well hack the west is their opinion.

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Comment by Vanger
by Vanger on Fri 5th Mar 2010 20:45 UTC
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2007-11-28

The only thing more pathetic than 30 commenters trying to make a poor joke is Thom making any decision about their country.

OS news, anyone?

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North Korean Linux Disks
by mikeinohio on Sat 6th Mar 2010 11:13 UTC
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2010-02-21

I have some questions about these disks.

1) Does the ink used to label the disks transfer easily, staining everything it comes into contact with?

2) Does the disk shrink to half its size if you attempt to wash it or even just get it wet?

3) Does the metal platter inside the disk start to rust out a few months after you get it?

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Three apps that cannot be uninstalled
by usr0 on Sun 7th Mar 2010 07:27 UTC
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2006-10-27

The Pyongyang Fortres firewall provides enhanced security and assures that you get the latest patches and don't access malicious websites.

And Woodpecker antivirus app looks for suspicious HTML, DOC, ODT, and TXT files to remove them quickly before you get infected with inappropriate information.

There is also an alternative for Apple's iWork Suite called "weWork Sickle III edition" which automatically shares your work with the NK Department of Homeland Security.

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